The broken FFXIV Holy trinity

[Ashkendor]

You responded to me...

Actually he responded to this person:

wear gear appropriate for the level of the dungeon and tell me mobs don't hit hard.

Fool. We're outgearing dungeons by more than 20 levels, ofcourse it's easy!

and then you started in with him. He never said that speed running was for first timers. That's a ridiculous assumption. He simply said it can be done in level appropriate gear. As for your question about gearing, tomes weren't thrown around at launch the same way they are now which made things horrendously slow when it came to grinding out your tome gear. The devs have devoted a lot of time and effort to making it easier and easier for people to catch up. I started in 2.1 and even then, saving up for myth gear sucked. The tome rewards from each dungeon were pretty crappy and you could only get 450 per week. I can only imagine that it was even worse at launch when you could only get 300.

Also, unless you just have no clue how to advance your character, how were you doing multiple runs of each dungeon and still in the minimum ilvl requirement gear?

Level appropriate doesn't necessarily mean still sitting at the minimum ilevel requirement. o.O

[Cirgellon]

Level appropriate doesn't necessarily mean still sitting at the minimum ilevel requirement. o.O

If you are over the minimum level, you have outleveled it. Why would the make the difficulty for someone ilvl 110 if the dungeon opens at ilvl 95?

Also, he was clearly responding to me as I was the one who made the speedrun comment...

Tome gear would have been well above those dungeons. That isn't what I was saying. Maybe we differ on what qualifies as over geared but that response doesn't refute what I said. I just ran this stuff with a group near minimum item level. They really aren't as easy as people try claiming. They are easy, if you do them right. They aren't just faceroll with no thought unless you have done them a lot or are overgeared. The difficulty is tuned for exactly what it should be, new player(to the dungeon) in minimum ilvl gear.

[Malevicton]

Did you skip the part where I said "The person I responded to said the dungeons weren't speedrun-able at the req ilvl. First time runs are a different conversation"? Did you just skip everything I said? cause it's starting to look like you just skimmed a few keywords and made up the rest to suit what you felt like saying :P

Stop putting words in my mouth. At this point I've explicitly said multiple times that I'm not saying they're faceroll easy, just that you can do sr at low ilvl, and you keep trying to twist it into the opposite; I haven't left much of my opinion up to interpretation at this point. It's getting awkward that we're having to argue over what I'm even trying to argue. When in doubt, I probably know more about my own opinions than you do.

And I'm certain that it's possible because I've done it. You're free to not believe me, but at least have a counter argument better than "No it's not." Have you ever tried? Do you have anything more than your gut feeling to support yourself?