The Ninja Superthread

[Pluvia]

If you think Goad is useless I'm done trying to reason with you. >_>

Never said goad was completely useless its just 1/4 as effective now as it was on release and may become less effective depending how things turn out with monks

[Odowla]

Never said goad was completely useless its just 1/4 as effective now as it was on release and may become less effective depending how things turn out with monks

How is it 1/4 less effective. There's still a bard, still a monk, If you're saying its less useful because you're running out of TP too then, I mean, the amount of damage ninjas were doing for their TP drain was a bit completetly insane.

[Pluvia]

How is it 1/4 less effective. There's still a bard, still a monk, If you're saying its less useful because you're running out of TP too then, I mean, the amount of damage ninjas were doing for their TP drain was a bit completetly insane.

which is fine I understand why they increased the tp cost it. Hopefully in HW they make ninja have close to the same amount of positional as monk/drg i can deal with less of BUFF FIST OF WINDS NINJAS ARE OP WITH MOVEMENT SPEED BUFF threads we seem to get

Let me set these points straight

1. Monks without a doubt with the way things are right now Should be ahead of ninja but they are not so it should be fixed.
2. Feels like SE is being lazy with how they're changing ninja is all i'm saying.
3. I don't care if they add positionals i play all the melee it won't bother me.
4. Fix mudra lag or change how mudras work so lag has less of an effect on it.
5. Give dragoons some utility
6. Their reasoning for giving the aggro ability is a stupid reason no Ninja with a good tank will ever pull off them in an opener.
7. i don't have a hard on for a specific class that prevents me from seeing the fact that ninja out damaging monk right now makes zero sense. But trying to use dummies to prove it just makes no sense.
8. Want to know what class I main in Coil its bard. But in pugs i play mostly Monk with some Ninja

[Atreides]

Ninja outdpsing Monk stuff.

I have yet to see a single Ninja outdpsing monks on a EU server.
Maybe they can pull ahead in NA/JP servers because of better latency but I can easily pull higher numbers on my monk with eyes closed with lesser gear than on my Ninja with my 140 ping.
Yes, Mudra lag is just that bad, some people don't even know what Mudra lag really is when I see them streaming and complaining about lag.
Some people have it even worse, i.e. Australians on EU or Na servers, they are better off on the JP servers.
In my opinion monks don't deserve the damage they have because they are piss easy to play, seeing how they bring position to Ninja too I rather play a class that is "concidered" hard to play while in fact it's a breeze while pulling high numbers until we get our EU servers.

[Pluvia]

I have yet to see a single Ninja outdpsing monks on a EU server.
Maybe they can pull ahead in NA/JP servers because of better latency but I can easily pull higher numbers on my monk with eyes closed with lesser gear than on my Ninja with my 140 ping.
Yes, Mudra lag is just that bad, some people don't even know what Mudra lag really is when I see them streaming and complaining about lag.
Some people have it even worse, i.e. Australians on EU or Na servers, they are better off on the JP servers.
In my opinion monks don't deserve the damage they have because they are piss easy to play, seeing how they bring position to Ninja too I rather play a class that is "concidered" hard to play while in fact it's a breeze while pulling high numbers until we get our EU servers.

Honestly I just want them to change something with ninjutsu sure not having to recast Huton more often will be a dps increase to anyone with near perfect latency for the fact they will get more Raiton in but those who have latency issues have to cast fuma shuriken. and it will only give them more shuriken casts since Raiton Cuts too much into the GCD while yes its a dps increase still for them its majorly less so. It exacerbates the issue between people will great latency and people who get bad mudra lag. Where as with monk/dragoon its not as big of an issue if you're a good player since you're not trying to fit 3 .5s skills into a gcd.

I can fit Raiton into the GCD so while its not an issue for me I know it is a issue for a lot of people