The Ninja Superthread

[Crescent_Dusk]

Well lets just hope they balance it well. But i have this feeling its going to be monk or go home for progression all over again.

lol NIN have been favored over monk for a while and here you are whining about monks. Trick Attack and Goad in addition to similar DPS output without positionals is what put NIN in a category of its own.

Try losing your mudras everytime a boss goes up in the air or you get targeted by a mechanic, then we'll talk. But monks have that oh so "useful' Mantra.

[Pluvia]

lol NIN have been favored over monk for a while and here you are whining about monks. Trick Attack and Goad in addition to similar DPS output without positionals is what put NIN in a category of its own.

Try losing your mudras everytime a boss goes up in the air or you get targeted by a mechanic, then we'll talk. But monks have that oh so "useful' Mantra.

And monks have always been the go too melee for progression and ninja barely does more damage then monk you can't be Dragon kick and 20% mantra for progression. I guess if you tank really sucks(get a new one) the aggro thing will be useful. Also most peoples mudra lag its a dps loss to use raiton so a lot of ninjas are using fuma shuriken so no refreshing Huton really isn't that awsome.

[Viridiana]

And monks have always been the go too melee for progression and ninja barely does more damage then monk you can't be Dragon kick and 20% mantra for progression. I guess if you tank really sucks(get a new one) the aggro thing will be useful. Also most peoples mudra lag its a dps loss to use raiton so a lot of ninjas are using fuma shuriken so no refreshing Huton really isn't that awsome.

You say that like groups don't usually have two melee. Only need one MNK for DK and Mantra.

[Pluvia]

You say that like groups don't usually have two melee. Only need one MNK for DK and Mantra.

Or you know double monk could be the go to thing again. It really isn't an issue to me i can play either well i just prefer not to have 2 melees dancing around and then dancing around aoes and white fires and shit like that to get each other killed.

[Viridiana]

Or you know double monk could be the go to thing again. It really isn't an issue to me i can play either well i just prefer not to have 2 melees dancing around and then dancing around aoes and white fires and shit like that to get each other killed.

Has double MNK been a thing since NIN released? I know some of the first groups through FCoB had double MNK, but MNK/NIN made it into the first 5 groups, so. . . And I doubt that having a DK slave for one MNK will be a bigger DPS boost than having TA available.

[Pluvia]

Has double MNK been a thing since NIN released? I know some of the first groups through FCoB had double MNK, but MNK/NIN made it into the first 5 groups, so. . . And I doubt that having a DK slave for one MNK will be a bigger DPS boost than having TA available.

True it hasn't anymore but has the potential to if SE doesn't do it right. Mostly just sick of all the monks bitching on the forums right now so kinda hope they nosedive both ninja and dragoons so the crybaby monks who bitch about ninjas having a slight movemespeed buff will get their ways. (protip high progression ninjas could careless about the moment speed and the fall damage reduction you can have it give ninjas better passives.)

Add one positional combo to ninja fix the mudra lag give them similar not the same dps as monk have monk the highest. and make ninja and dragoon slightly lower then them

[GrimoireOfAlice]

Well that's totally soured my hopes for Ninja in Heavensward.
This presentation made it seem like they don't want people playing Ninja in heavensward.

A quality of life improvement we didn't really need attatched to a weapon skill that I now have to find room for in my rotation so we can do an extra laggy Mudra all while fitting in positionals we didn't need or want.

Compared to the rest of the line up this is seriously disappointing.

Why no new situational Mudra? Almost every Mudra has its place in the rotation and literally no situational value except for the ice spell that binds. That's one situational spell out of how many Ninjutsu?

You have the entire final fantasy series and the every myth, fantasy and fiction of the Ninja to draw your inspiration from. And the best you can do is a slightly longer duration buff and having to poke things from different angles. And using us to fix the problem that people cannot hold fire for a second to let the tank begin his combo.