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    Player
    Azmaria's Avatar
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    Lyra Fenris
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    Leviathan
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Losing aggro on trick attack really should only happen if your tank sucks, as you will want dancing edge up, and getting that up gives them plenty of time to hold aggro. This is all pretty lackluster, and I don't see how we can compete with the tools that other dps are getting. How will our damage scale with them?
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    Last edited by Azmaria; 05-22-2015 at 08:29 AM.

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    Crescent_Dusk's Avatar
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    Crescent Dusk
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    Exodus
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Azmaria View Post
    Losing aggro on trick attack really should only happen if your tank sucks, as you will want dancing edge up, and getting that up gives them plenty of time to hold aggro. This is all pretty lackluster, and I don't see how we can compete with the tools that other dps are getting. How will our damage scale with them?
    You'll essentially get Houton up and then passively keep it up, which means you'll be executing more Raitons in between Suitons now. There's also more skills in the ninja video and you don't know if the new positionals means they will do more damage than they currently do.

    Speculating about dps disparities now is stupid and a waste of time.
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    Azmaria's Avatar
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    Lyra Fenris
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    Leviathan
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Crescent_Dusk View Post
    You'll essentially get Houton up and then passively keep it up, which means you'll be executing more Raitons in between Suitons now. There's also more skills in the ninja video and you don't know if the new positionals means they will do more damage than they currently do.

    Speculating about dps disparities now is stupid and a waste of time.
    Yea as it is now you get 1 extra raiton, that's all that changes to mundra rotation. The new combo's could be nice, but given they have the effect of buffing huton's uptime, I doubt they will be our main damage combo. So far it looks like we keep up our dots, keep up dancing edge and weave in new combo's whenever we need to. Pretty boring when you compare to the shake up that everyone else is getting.

    Just hard to be excited after seeing all the flashy new things that EVERYONE else is getting, while ninja get a small qol buff.
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    Songi's Avatar
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    Character
    Akari Legaia
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 60
    Aside from Huton duration increase are Ninjas even getting anything worthwhile? I don't like to be a doomsayer but I'm not liking where Ninja heading one bit.
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    Character
    Butta Stackz
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 80

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    Character
    Aiot O'lein
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Rogue Lv 80
    Managing your own aggro can help a lot specially if you are dealing with a low gear Tank, indeed.
    As of late I've ended as a NIN tank for CT2 last boss more often than not simply because the Tanks can't keep up :/

    Needless to say that never ends well...

    But it not only applies to yourself, it seems you can also lower your allies' Aggro... *throws it to the Tank* now the Healer is the Tank!!
    Well, TrollNIN is underway.
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    Viridiana's Avatar
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    Aria Placida
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    Lamia
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 88
    Quote Originally Posted by Arkenne View Post
    But it not only applies to yourself, it seems you can also lower your allies' Aggro... *throws it to the Tank* now the Healer is the Tank!!
    Well, TrollNIN is underway.
    To steal a thing from WoW, Misdirect the healer!
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    silentwindfr's Avatar
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    Character
    Florence Leduc
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 90
    indeed Huton refresh is a big up
    indeed the new skill that allows to reduce the hate is a big up

    however, position and the lack of true new ninjutsu.... usefull! it's an big let down!
    the cycle is still crancky (thanks the 2 dot with different duration with one into a combo of 2 skill), the mudra lag is still there, the useless ninjutsu skill are still the same...seriously i was hoping for more... being the last jobs don't means we are perfect, no?

    we have a lot of issues that affect directly our cycle and dps.... and they want to throw on top of this the positionning? do any dev play ninja? no because i begin to wonder!
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    Cima Remhrll
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Rogue Lv 50
    Adding positionals to Ninja is very souring. The last thing Ninja needs is the same arbitrary tediousness that plagues the other two melee; here's to hoping it's not too invasive like Dragoon's recent positional overhaul.
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