The constant disbanding of Steps of Faith

[RiceisNice]

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Terrible experience maybe? I've seen newbies who said they were new and often get chewed out on it, even in heroic roulette. It's a big sea out there with a lot of fishies and tuna, what matters is what you do with it.

I mean just from a post in this very topic here, he apparently left as soon as someone said " We don't know the fight." Maybe the conversation carried out logner than that and he didn't include or, or maybe not. There's two perspectives to that and maybe they were going over it in FC; he just didn't stick around long enough to actually see more of the conversation. Or maybe he did and that was literally the conversation.

[Sapphic]

Terrible experience maybe? I've seen newbies who said they were new and often get chewed out on it, even in heroic roulette. It's a big sea out there with a lot of fishies and tuna, what matters is what you do with it.

Players state that vet players should teach newer players. How else will they know someone is new? By waiting for them to fail on a mechanic that could have been easily explained? How well do you think that would go?

Also, compared to those who got help and advice as opposed to those who didn't. In normal dungeons those who, in my opinion, state they are new are helped. Mechanics are easily explained. Only time I've seen negativity is when new players join difficult content with zero idea of what to do and say nothing or first thing they say is "I'm new, what do I do?" when they could have helped themselves and read up on the fight to have some knowledge before instead of expecting everyone else to type out a guide in party chat. Or when they mess up on something which, if they had stated they were new, could have been explained in a single sentace and prevented it. Example: don't AE the adds on first boss in Tam Tara HM.

Theres a huge difference for difficult content in "I'm new, what do I do?" and "I'm new but I read the strats, couple of things I'm not clear on tho." The second one made an effort to help the party succeed with the information available, The former, couldn't be bothered and expects everyone else to make the effort for their sole benefit. The first ones, I won't help. The second ones? Of course because they made an effort to help themselves too.

Exactly why I don't do content with any semblance of a challenge in DF.

[RiceisNice]

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My examples were more for heroic dungeons or lets even say SoF though. I mean when it comes to coil, I'd understand having to put at least some sort of effort into knowing the fight. I don't even remember the last time I had to (or anyone for the matter) research a dungeon or MS fights for strategy, let alone expecting them to do so.

[Sapphic]

My examples were more for heroic dungeons or lets even say SoF though. I mean when it comes to coil, I'd understand having to put at least some sort of effort into knowing the fight. I don't even remember the last time I had to (or anyone for the matter) research a dungeon or MS fights for strategy, let alone expecting them to do so.

Agree there are some socially inept people out there, but from 1000s of dungeons they are the minority on the EU data center (to be honest I hear more of that kind of person from players on the US data centres). We generally remember negative events more clearly than positive. Run a 1000 dungeons, get abused and kicked on the 1001st, that is the one which sticks out most which puts a emotional bias on the so called reports of excessive bad behaiviour in the DF. Not to mention people do so love to exagerate to prove their point :P