The constant disbanding of Steps of Faith

[Warlyx]

But they could have waited until a week after Heavensward comes out before nerfing it. Unless it's level synced to 50, people would be able to easily beat it at, say, level 52... thus making the nerf pointless

how are ppl that cant pass Steps of faith going to be lvl 52 ? u need to finish it in order to even travel to heavensward....and if u think ppl that are 51+ are going to do 2.0 content too busy enjoying the expansion to do that !$·!$ again

and im fairly sure all the 2.0 endgame content will sync to 50 and max ilvl 130

[Felis]

how are ppl that cant pass Steps of faith going to be lvl 52 ? u need to finish it in order to even travel to heavensward...

To increase the levelcap in Heavensward you only need the expansion and don't need to clear the 2.x story.

and if u think ppl that are 51+ are going to do 2.0 content too busy enjoying the expansion to do that !$·!$ again

With 3.0 (or 3.1?) a new relic questline is coming. Also during the first day will be a flood of lv30 jobs.

[Twilite]

SE never gates system updates(the battle/level system). They have even gone further as to do away with LB quests.

[Airget]

Eh, I don't know what people are complaining about, honestly people would of most likely enjoyed this Duty more if you didn't have to be picture perfect for victory. I've cleared it but from the times I did do it, 1 missed lance= game over and what fun is that knowing the rest of the match is a crap shoot when one mistake is made, this isn't suppose to be coil.

There was just no second chances to be had when it came to steps unless maybe you were outfitted as i135 then maybe you could miss a lance and still win but for most that isn't possible at that point in time.

By removing the excess damage and HP all they've done is just make it a tad less stressful to win, so that maybe if you miss a lance you aren't screwed and can still win rather than push push push and lose at 1%.

[Discordia]

So another instance becomes faceroll easy. It wasn't even hard to begin with, and mine and most pugs beat it in 1-3 tries. As another poster mentioned... the tension was amazing and actually made the fight interesting for once.

Only thing needed was a reset instance option.

Half of the time, the problem was people abandoning it (e.g., ALT+TAB, close client) before the fight started, and if they were tanks/healers, good luck in queue. You wouldn't have LB3 with < full group and most of the time, no one would want to do anything until the group filled out. If the queue took longer than a minute for replacement, like clockwork, players start quitting one by one until just 5 minutes in, without even pulling the boss once, the raid is done. Repeat this over and over and anyone with thin patience will just stop playing the game.

[LineageRazor]

To increase the levelcap in Heavensward you only need the expansion and don't need to clear the 2.x story.

I'll be surprised if you actually need the expansion in order to level past 50. They never did this in FFXI - in fact, they went out of their way to provide methods for folks who choose not to buy the expansion to continue leveling (added higher level mobs to old zones).

In fact, I think it's highly likely that experience points are going to be added to level 50 Main Scenario quests and sidequests, so that folks newer to the game can continue leveling as they proceed through Main Scenario.

Heavensward will offer higher level open world mobs (but who levels on those?), higher level FATEs, and higher level dungeons, but for folks who choose not to pick up the expansion there will still be Dungeon Roulette, and possibly other methods added as well. It will be more difficult to level up without the expansion, but I doubt it will be impossible to level up without the expansion.

[Magis]

Half of the time, the problem was people abandoning it (e.g., ALT+TAB, close client) before the fight started, and if they were tanks/healers, good luck in queue. You wouldn't have LB3 with < full group and most of the time, no one would want to do anything until the group filled out. If the queue took longer than a minute for replacement, like clockwork, players start quitting one by one until just 5 minutes in, without even pulling the boss once, the raid is done. Repeat this over and over and anyone with thin patience will just stop playing the game.

Why were people abandoning SoF instead of say Titan (which has it's DF fails)? Not because it was hard mechanically (it isn't at all), but for the reason you quoted me. People can take a few fails if they are quick to reset. People don't want to sit for 10m on a failed run because you can't reset. Group abandonment was the symptom, not the cause.

[Crysten]

I just had to share my latest experience post nerf because this just highlights the problems with this fight and the game in general, really. That and I have a 30 minute wait timer.

I do my Trials Roulette, and lo and behold, I get Steps of Faith. Of course I'm going to give it a go; I'm curious to see how hard the fight was nerfed. I volunteer to take cannons as a healer and ask a tank to go with me. Two minutes later, after a period of total silence, a few markers appear over people's heads and change a couple of times.

"OK" I think, "It's probably an FC/premade or something discussing a strat."

Three minutes later, we still haven't pulled. I ask the question and make a bit of small talk. "So, are you guys in an FC together?"

Another minute and a half passes.

"huh?"

"Are you guys discussing a strat or something? Just wondering why we haven't pulled yet."

"We don't know the fight."

At this point, I decide to just cut my losses and leave. I'm sorry, but experiences like this are EXACTLY why people do not wish to help on this fight.

Are people that anti-social and inept that they are willing to just look at a mob for 8 minutes expecting someone to spoonfeed it all to them than open their mouths or did I just meet the only party that took "silent protagonist" far too literally?

[Skivvy]

Why were people abandoning SoF instead of say Titan (which has it's DF fails)? Not because it was hard mechanically (it isn't at all), but for the reason you quoted me. People can take a few fails if they are quick to reset. People don't want to sit for 10m on a failed run because you can't reset. Group abandonment was the symptom, not the cause.

Not sure if you're talking storymode Titan, or HM/EX. If story, the difficulty of that fight wasn't bad (much like SoF), but it didn't require extra coordination outside of people just doing their jobs. if you're referring to HM and/or EX - you get loot from those. People are far more likely to stick around when there is an actual reward.

I really think a reset option for SoF would have helped tremendously.

[Krylo]

Snip

Not that surprising considering how often I've been insulted for taking lead in anything where people don't pull immediately. Ranging from people arguing about which strat is best to 'I'm i130, how hard can it be? Lol scrub'. And admitting you're new is worse. "Oh great, a new person, guess we'll be wiping all day" isn't uncommon to hear. People say they want new folks to say they're new, but then half the time when you do you get people insulting you or leaving instance on anything mildly difficult (ex primals, for instance). Granted, half the time you get really supportive groups, too, but, I mean, it's not hard to see why people might not want to talk.

That said, you should just take the lead if no one else is doing it after a minute, and if someone tries to take the lead but you don't know the fight well enough to understand what's being asked of you--you should speak up about that, too. If you try to take the lead and everyone ignores it? I guess, yeah, just bounce. I've never had an issue where I couldn't wrangle a group, though. But it is difficult sometimes. Lots of people don't like to talk in chat even to say "Okay" or "Got it", so it's sometimes a struggle making sure everyone is on the same page after explaining.