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    Discordia's Avatar
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    Mio Kuromi
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magis View Post
    So another instance becomes faceroll easy. It wasn't even hard to begin with, and mine and most pugs beat it in 1-3 tries. As another poster mentioned... the tension was amazing and actually made the fight interesting for once.

    Only thing needed was a reset instance option.
    Half of the time, the problem was people abandoning it (e.g., ALT+TAB, close client) before the fight started, and if they were tanks/healers, good luck in queue. You wouldn't have LB3 with < full group and most of the time, no one would want to do anything until the group filled out. If the queue took longer than a minute for replacement, like clockwork, players start quitting one by one until just 5 minutes in, without even pulling the boss once, the raid is done. Repeat this over and over and anyone with thin patience will just stop playing the game.
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    Magis's Avatar
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    Magis Luagis
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Discordia View Post
    Half of the time, the problem was people abandoning it (e.g., ALT+TAB, close client) before the fight started, and if they were tanks/healers, good luck in queue. You wouldn't have LB3 with < full group and most of the time, no one would want to do anything until the group filled out. If the queue took longer than a minute for replacement, like clockwork, players start quitting one by one until just 5 minutes in, without even pulling the boss once, the raid is done. Repeat this over and over and anyone with thin patience will just stop playing the game.
    Why were people abandoning SoF instead of say Titan (which has it's DF fails)? Not because it was hard mechanically (it isn't at all), but for the reason you quoted me. People can take a few fails if they are quick to reset. People don't want to sit for 10m on a failed run because you can't reset. Group abandonment was the symptom, not the cause.
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    Rafflesia
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Magis View Post
    Why were people abandoning SoF instead of say Titan (which has it's DF fails)? Not because it was hard mechanically (it isn't at all), but for the reason you quoted me. People can take a few fails if they are quick to reset. People don't want to sit for 10m on a failed run because you can't reset. Group abandonment was the symptom, not the cause.

    Not sure if you're talking storymode Titan, or HM/EX. If story, the difficulty of that fight wasn't bad (much like SoF), but it didn't require extra coordination outside of people just doing their jobs. if you're referring to HM and/or EX - you get loot from those. People are far more likely to stick around when there is an actual reward.

    I really think a reset option for SoF would have helped tremendously.
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    Last edited by Skivvy; 05-14-2015 at 05:42 AM.