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    Quote Originally Posted by Iromi View Post
    Yeah but promoting bad players doesn't retain subs. Eventually the loyal and good players will take off. And we all know how bad players are..they go after the next new shiny mmo!
    I don't know. WoW seems to be doing quite well despite its extreme catering to casuals. That MMOs been around since 2004 and no new shiny MMO has seemed to knock it off that track.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kpxmanifesto View Post
    I don't know. WoW seems to be doing quite well despite its extreme catering to casuals. That MMOs been around since 2004 and no new shiny MMO has seemed to knock it off that track.
    WoW is killing itself no need to worry about the next greatest thing. Their sub numbers have dropped 3 mil since WoD launched and the end of March.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuathaa View Post
    WoW is killing itself no need to worry about the next greatest thing. Their sub numbers have dropped 3 mil since WoD launched and the end of March.
    Why is it killing itself? Never played it and I'm curious.
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    Why would you pay for a game, to pay an RMT, to pay other players to play the game for you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kpxmanifesto View Post
    I don't know. WoW seems to be doing quite well despite its extreme catering to casuals. That MMOs been around since 2004 and no new shiny MMO has seemed to knock it off that track.
    lolwowisdoingwell.png

    Huh, subscription rates stopped rising at the end of TBC/beginning of wrath.... when they started the hyper themepark design. Then it fell every expansion after. Interestingly the design that got them to their millions numbers was when WoW had the more classic MMO approach. Oh well.

    I guess loosing 3 million subscribers in 3 months is "doing well".

    I dunno why people put WoW on some pedestal. At least, post-TBC/Wrath.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magis View Post
    lolwowisdoingwell.png

    Huh, subscription rates stopped rising at the end of TBC/beginning of wrath.... when they started the hyper themepark design. Then it fell every expansion after. Interestingly the design that got them to their millions numbers was when WoW had the more classic MMO approach. Oh well.

    I guess loosing 3 million subscribers in 3 months is "doing well".

    I dunno why people put WoW on some pedestal. At least, post-TBC/Wrath.
    7.5 million subscribers (according to the chart you linked) is still a lot. I and many others would consider that "doing well".
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    Quote Originally Posted by kpxmanifesto View Post
    7.5 million subscribers (according to the chart you linked) is still a lot. I and many others would consider that "doing well".
    An almost halving of your subscription rate is pretty abysmal considering they have investors to pay as well as everything needed to run such a monolith. And your post was "doing quite well despite its extreme catering to casuals" when no, in fact they have not done well, nor have they done the same. They have done worse. Lucky for Blizzard they had made the right steps in the beginning and could take the hit, not so much other smaller MMOs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magis View Post
    could take the hit.
    Yeah, they're doing quite well.

    Besides, I'm gonna need to see a credible source(that's more complex than a graph of the number of WoW subscribers) that displays that Activision Blizzard is in some sort of financial hardship. You are not a credible source. Everything you said seems incredibly subjective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kpxmanifesto View Post
    Yeah, they're doing quite well.

    Besides, I'm gonna need to see a credible source(that's more complex than a graph of the number of subscribers) that displays that they're in some of financial danger. You are not a credible source. Everything you said seems incredibly subjective.
    I literally linked a news report from 6 days ago stating they lost 3 million people in 3 months. If they weren't taking a financial hit, they wouldn't also be raising the subscription rate in certain regions. Also Google "WoW Subscription Rate" and you get pretty much the same numbers since Blizzard does release their subscription rates quarterly.

    Seems MMO Champion made a nice graph up to WoD: http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/...on-Subscribers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magis View Post
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    You do know that WoW isn't Activision Blizzard's only game, right?

    ACTIVISION BLIZZARD ANNOUNCES BETTER‐THAN‐EXPECTED FIRST QUARTER 2015 FINANCIAL RESULTS http://files.shareholder.com/downloa...ss_Release.pdf

    So if you ask me, I think Blizzard is doing quite alright even though their MMO lost 3 million subs in 3 months.

    Here's another link. http://variety.com/2015/digital/news...ty-1201488909/

    Anyways, nothing in that article you linked provided an explanation for the increased subscription price. Their strategy of increasing subscription price because of them taking a financial hit was entirely your own conclusion.
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