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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
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    It makes the Dragon Killers more meaningful, but overall less important. At present you can get away with missing 1 of them and still push through if you have the dps and LB3. Boost it and it certainly has a bigger impact on the fight but you can also afford to miss 1 even more than now.

    If all 3 Dragon Killers went off, the bombs blew up appropriately and everyone was on top of their game with cannons, adds and dps, nah haven't seen it (though certainly not denying it is quite possible). All wipes I've seen/experienced have resulted from either misuse of cannons, missed DKs or adds eating everyone's faces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SDaemon View Post
    It makes the Dragon Killers more meaningful, but overall less important. At present you can get away with missing 1 of them and still push through if you have the dps and LB3. Boost it and it certainly has a bigger impact on the fight but you can also afford to miss 1 even more than now.
    Only if the group's gear based DpS is good enough at which point the group was going to clear anyways quite possibly before the 3rd barrier is broken. Properly following the mechanics should win the fight with gear based DpS being a nice but not necessary component for victory.
    If all 3 Dragon Killers went off, the bombs blew up appropriately and everyone was on top of their game with cannons, adds and dps, nah haven't seen it (though certainly not denying it is quite possible). All wipes I've seen/experienced have resulted from either misuse of cannons, missed DKs or adds eating everyone's faces.
    Misuse/Failure to use cannons, missed DKs and uncontrolled Adds should be failure/near-failure conditions.

    What we should not want is a nerf that makes 4 Dps beat on the boss ignoring Cannons and Dragonkillers a viable method of clearing the fight. Those who have that mentality that should be a viable strategy to complete Steps should not be able to clear it in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    Only if the group's gear based DpS is good enough at which point the group was going to clear anyways quite possibly before the 3rd barrier is broken. Properly following the mechanics should win the fight with gear based DpS being a nice but not necessary component for victory.


    Misuse/Failure to use cannons, missed DKs and uncontrolled Adds should be failure/near-failure conditions.

    What we should not want is a nerf that makes 4 Dps beat on the boss ignoring Cannons and Dragonkillers a viable method of clearing the fight. Those who have that mentality that should be a viable strategy to complete Steps should not be able to clear it in my opinion.
    I never said over-gearing was necessary though. I said that boosting the DKs simply had the result of making the 3rd DK even less important.

    Also never argued that misuse of cannons, DKs and add control should lead to clear-able conditions.

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    Last edited by SDaemon; 05-09-2015 at 06:25 AM.