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    Player
    Hakuro89's Avatar
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    Reimi Ackerman
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 51
    It's a part of the main scenario questline, so people expected it to be relatively easy content to clear. We weren't expecting it to be nearly Coil-level difficulty. Those of us that did clear it obviously don't want to do it again if we don't have to, especially since there's zero reward for clearing it a second time aside from the tomes you get everywhere else. I myself use the trial roulette for some quick tomes, because until SoF came out it usually dropped me in a light farm somewhere. I don't want to do SoF again unless I'm helping someone I know through it. Personally, looking back on it and thinking about it, I think the difficulty of it may have been a check of sorts to prep us for Heavensward content, but I digress.

    As far as clearing it goes, the DF probably isn't the best option. To be frank it rarely is for anything even remotely difficult (I won't even use it for ANYTHING beyond Turn 4). Your best bet is asking your FC or a Linkshell, as previously stated, or you may want to opt to put a party finder together for it. There's quite a few people that love to help new people and look for soldiery bonuses for it.
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Skadi Felis
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 70
    They are thinking about whether they should add rewards to or adjust the difficulty of Steps of Faith. Although the clear rate of the battle isn't too low, they realize the battle can be quite long. Once they decide what to do, it'll be added as an adjustment in one of the patches. (Yoshida)
    http://www.bluegartr.fr/threads/1254...284-25-4-26%29

    I'm for reward. The difficulty is not too difficult.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiya View Post
    Yes you can. Theres no enforcement of levels or need to complete all low level instances to use low level roulette no reason why it couldnt work for steps. Getting I90 wouldnt be hard either if they added the old i90 accs and armor to the main scenario quests as one time rewards along the way so theyre base i90 by the time they hit castrum.
    Then move all trials, that are needed for main story, into main story roulette. Don't be picky.

    And ilevel 90 gear as quest reward before castrum? This would be idiotic. Castrum is balanced around AF 1 gear.
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    Last edited by Felis; 04-30-2015 at 08:09 AM.

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    Seig345's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Seigyoku Cypher
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 66
    I remember back on the release week, after my 2nd or 3rd attempt, realizing that no matter how good/bad your group was, there's literally only time on the clock for about 3 attempts. By the time everyone starts to figure it out, they get shunted out and forced to be reshuffled and start all over again. This wouldn't be so bad; technically you'd eventually reach a point where everyone's gotten to that "almost had it" point in their previous DF group that it leads to a clear, but then you have the instant quitters, who not only slow down the community "learning process", but there's also inevitably been many situations where someone has instant quit on a group that would have cleared it on the first run.
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    Kinku's Avatar
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    Character
    Wendel Saltoc
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    I didn't realize how hard to beat this Trial. I recently got back playing this game, year long break, and was catching up on main story. Use duty finder and beat it in two tries. Probably one of my favorite trial so far.
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    aerialrave's Avatar
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    Character
    Jessie Belle
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 60
    Something must be done!

    ...

    Stop queuing for Trial Roulette and get your easy tomes elsewhere.
    There are plenty of other places where you can leech and/or play horribly and probably get away with it even though everyone hates you. I'm looking at you, Crystal Tower.

    I hope they don't change anything so that people will stop abusing the Trial Roulette.
    It will help new people in the long run because they won't get pushed into games where people are leaving instantly.
    Even if their queue time is longer, it will be worth the wait when they get a group that won't leave, rather than having to worry about filling In Progress.

    If anything, they should put harsher punishments on leaving Roulettes such as this:
    "Since you have abandoned the duty, this trial is no longer available for today."
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    Krr's Avatar
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    Murah Jhida
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by aerialrave View Post
    Stop queuing for Trial Roulette and get your easy tomes elsewhere.
    no, frankly, content that takes 15 minutes or more to do that no one wants to do should not give a smaller reward than content that takes 5 minutes and everyone wants to do

    that is how competent game design works. you make the reward worth the investment of time and energy or people stop caring
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    VanilleFang's Avatar
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    Estellise Valesti
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 70
    I tried to do Steps earlier for m Trial Roulette. People kept leaving but I decided to stick around and help the ones who needed the clear. We got a tank at one point who said he had to go because his cat jumped in the fireplace (worst excuse I've ever heard). We vote kicked him because he for some reason just logged off instead of leaving?


    So we waited around, discussing what everyone would do, and he came in again. The same tank. Why the hell would you queue up for "in progress" in Trials if you aren't willing to do Steps? You are bound to get sucked into one with how many people leave. The other people in my party told him they weren't kicking him again and he should just leave. He logged out again... We started the trial with 7 of us. We ended up failing but whatever.

    The worst part of it all was when the tank logged back in and just sat there. He told us he "cant be bothered with easy content" and that "you can do it with 6 people and no cannons". Are you kidding me? All he did was talk trash instead of leaving or helping us clear it.

    After 30 minutes I had to leave for work. I felt so bad.
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    balte049's Avatar
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    Stralgarr Balte
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 24
    If you keep failing with pugs, I would try and get an FC group going. At least you'll get people who won't quit after a failed attempt, assuming your FC isn't terrible.

    Don't have an FC? Join one, literally no reason in the world not to.
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  9. #9
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    Chihaya's Avatar
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    Character
    Syanonn Rias
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    Hilarious today... healer from some famous FC on Gilgamesh refusing to change their method and insists on having tank + healer on cannons.
    I much rather have people that know what they are doing on cannons/snares to be honest...

    Threw some insults - that my alt's gear is inferior (ilvl99) which btw their own gear is definitely not much more than 100 (with i90 weapon *cough* at least I got a i110 one) then left.

    Anyways we gave it a shot with a new healer - had some connection issues on first try but we cleared it 2nd try as the 3rd Dragonkiller went off.

    EDIT: they left before even willing to give it a shot
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    Last edited by Chihaya; 04-30-2015 at 03:26 PM.

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    Elim Lovecraft
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    I just DF'd a SoF. Guided and helped a group of mostly new people through it. Will probably continue to randomly df it till the expansion.
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    Last edited by Elim; 04-30-2015 at 04:49 PM.

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