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    Had an OT drop a prominence and a lighting bolt on me during the five headed dragon a couple of nights back.

    I didn't even want MT in there, I dislike it, OT is more fun and important in there. But iI asked who was going to be main, and they waited so long without replying that a dps pulled and I had to pick up the boss. What do they do? Let me get a ROH off, then come try to steal hate the whole fight. Every single battle that instance was the same...
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    As a healer, my respect goes to OTs who actually pick up adds which, sadly, tends to be a rarity. Sure, being main tank is important job, someone has to do it. But the squishies don't want to tank everything else that finds them delicious.
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    What bothers me is when they fight so hard to take hate from you, then you let them MT.

    Then they die and the boss comes at you wherever you are doing OT things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaft View Post
    I generally just save myself the hassle and MT everything. You couldn't rip threat off me if you wanted too, but it is fun to sometimes watch the other tanks try. After a few GCDs they generally give up and go do other things.
    I can rip hate ooff you no problems with an ilvl130 weapon. My crit game is strong lol. With defiance on I have about a 35% crit chance
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    Every Tuesday when running CT, the gauntlets of light would drop while I wasn't tanking, so yesterday I ran as tank since that's the last piece of the set I need for glamour. It wasn't too bad until we got to KB and then no one called Iron Giant so he was running amuck. I get off my tower and pick him up but at that point almost everyone was dead from a lag spike that made them miss getting behind a comet for the meteor. So we wipe and attempt again and I said in alliance chat that I would pick up Iron Giant. Someone else was like "Other tanks please don't pull off of Senah" and of course the first thing someone does is grab him and I'm just like really. Then in Syrcus Tower, no tanks stepped up for the first set of trash so I finally ran in. Then I went to MT Scylla and of course that's when someone decided they wanted to MT so I just stopped trying then and went to being off tank from that point.
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    Last edited by SummonerSenah; 05-07-2015 at 12:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by melflomil View Post
    I can rip hate ooff you no problems with an ilvl130 weapon. My crit game is strong lol. With defiance on I have about a 35% crit chance
    Yeah, even with just a 100 weapon I occasionally pull threat off of other tanks without even trying. Nine times out of ten it's someone with a decent enough weapon and full vit accessories, so they have a completely unnecessary amount of health but can't hold aggro for crap. Gonna be "interesting" when I get the poetics weapon...
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    Quote Originally Posted by melflomil View Post
    I can rip hate ooff you no problems with an ilvl130 weapon. My crit game is strong lol. With defiance on I have about a 35% crit chance
    It is not your crit game that lets you rip hate off of slightly better geared Paladins, but the fact that Warriors can Maim (120% damage/enmity) + Unchained (133% damage/enmity) + Berserk (150% damage/enmity) while in Defiance for 3 5721 enmity Butcher's Block combos compared to a Paladin's 4056 enmity RoH combo while Shield Oath and Fight or Flight are up.

    Edit: Noticed I messed up Maim's bonus. That shorted the Emity gain of the Butcher's Block combo by ~500.
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    Last edited by Ultimatecalibur; 05-08-2015 at 05:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimboTCB View Post
    Yeah, even with just a 100 weapon I occasionally pull threat off of other tanks without even trying. Nine times out of ten it's someone with a decent enough weapon and full vit accessories, so they have a completely unnecessary amount of health but can't hold aggro for crap. Gonna be "interesting" when I get the poetics weapon...
    I have a VIT and STR setup for PLD. I still use my VIT set in raids due to me dying cause of healers getting killed.

    Unnecessary amount of health is something we can argue, but i simply dont trust the healers I meet in DF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    It is not your crit game that lets you rip hate off of slightly better geared Paladins, but the fact that Warriors can Maim (110% damage/enmity) + Unchained (133% damage/enmity) + Berserk (150% damage/enmity) while in Defiance for 3 5244 enmity Butcher's Block combos compared to a Paladin's 4056 enmity RoH combo while Shield Oath and Fight or Flight are up.
    I guess I should if stated I wear strength gear and hit ridiculously hard for my warrior. my butcher under defiance penalty crits hits for 1.1k. That enmity boost gets that 1.5 multiplier . Crit isn't need but it sure gives you a nice boost. Also in coils when we put i do the buerserk unchained combo and I use none of my enmity mover. I usually do storm eye first and than storms path right after. I crit for like 1.6 k and I freaking pull hate 80% of the time. Even if I don't crit im still on the PLD ass. I avoid skull sunder or butcher in the initial pull if i aint main tanking.
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    I no longer do WoD on tank since I tend to rip hate even without my tanking stance up. A lot of people take their alt tanks in and try to main tank and don't realize they just don't have the gear/weapon/skill to maintain control to MT against someone that mains the role...
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    Last edited by Dhex; 05-08-2015 at 04:11 AM.

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