Calling MT huh?

[MichaelAngelus]

This is how it used to be in MMO's in general but it seems like the art of discussion was lost.

Forgotten, perhaps, but never lost. And I believe that it is definitely a cultural / learned behavior. It would seem that in the western culture, kindness, selflessness and patience are still seen by many as weaknesses due to fear of being taken advantage of... Thus the belief that being egotistical is the way to ensure success and survival. As long as we are aware of this, we don't have to be "offended" by the behavior, we can simply look at it as the antics of a culture not yet mature akin to children on a playground. What can we do about it? Lead by example

[Kiara]

This is how it used to be in MMO's in general but it seems like the art of discussion was lost. Raiding wise the Tanks would discuss amongst themselves who will do what job and people would also discuss their own roles if needed but in the age of PuG "I want my loot then i will leave" raids nobody gives a crap they will just struggle through a messy unorganized ball of stress to get to what they need. There is often a really long delay at the start while all three Tanks just look at each other until somebody pulls they could probably use this time to talk about jobs for the raid and damn well stick with them. Not say "I'm OT" and then start trying to pull the boss.

The Japanese players still have that sense of the whole instead of the self in a lot of situations so they organize things so everything is done as quick as possible without arguments. It's sort of funny how much more bitching happens on western servers in runs because everyone has to wave their e peen around and be billy big spuds.

Good points MX.

I can attest to Blim's post (I also posted something about this earlier), that on JP servers since Crystal Tower 1 and on, it's been really well organized. Everyone knows that B Alliance is MT, and that other Alliances take care of other things. For example, C Alliance on Cerberus always takes care of Wolfsbanes.

I've read in other threads about some crazy trolling that goes on in the NA servers CT / ST / WoD (like people killing off Bone Dragon so fast, the skeletons revive and wipe the entire alliance; or people grabbing Cerberus' Chains and *not* chaining him back up, to let him run rampant killing off other players). This never happens on JP servers; I was shocked to read about this. It's kinda sad hearing about this.