Quote Originally Posted by Discordia View Post
What about a trial that cannot be avoided by those that haven't yet cleared to progress in the main story? What about the fact that there is no penalty? The fact that people just leave without saying anything and leave before the timer has even ticked a few seconds into the trial? If that isn't elitism (I'm beyond this, I shouldn't have to deal with this), then I don't know what is. If you want to get roulette rewards, then put on your big boy pants and see through it, or at the least make a serious effort and leave if it's really bad. In my experience, that hasn't happen, as people just bail out right away.
What you're responding to has nothing to do with my OP and I think it's wrong on a couple of points:

1) There is a penalty for leaving a duty such as a trial (30 min). There used to be a thing where you could leave without penalty if someone was still watching a cutscene but SE fixed this. That aside I don't think penalties have the impact some players want them to. For example, I assume you're referring to the Steps trial? A 30 min penalty might look more appealing than wiping for an hour because people won't communicate or coordinate. And if you make penalties too high, people just won't play. Games are supposed to be fun and failing to make progress because of other players is not fun. I do agree that players shouldn't queue for roulette if they're not willing to do the trial though. At this point, probably every trial roulette will land on Steps (new, part of main story, some people stuck on it) so I think players should expect this to happen fairly frequently right now.

2) I don't think what you're describing is elitism. The players who are beyond a particular trial are probably beyond trial roulette (I haven't done trial roulette in many, many months, long before Steps came out). The reason? I easily cap Poetics doing other things and don't really need soldiery for anything. At this point, if you've been playing for a bit, Poetics is only good for gearing alts but FCoB is unlocked and so is WoD, making capping not a strict necessity by any means. The gil bonus to trial roulette is pretty mediocre (even assuming a 1-shot trial, I could make 200-300k in the same amount of time). Anyway, I think people just weigh the costs vs. rewards and it has nothing to do with elitism. But your post does kind of illustrate my point: all frustration for lack of progress is directed at so-called elitists.