Why I Decided to Become an Elitist

[Coris]

When I join DF I expect there may be new players, and it is fun helping them (note helping, not carrying a dead weight) to get their first clear, even if a wipe or 3 is involved, laugh it off, bolster them, throw out some advice for next try. But I won't keep a plyer in who fails at the most basic things constantly, holds back the party and turns to insults when friendly advice is given or totally ignores it and continues to be a douche. I'll ask the party in party chat if they want to replace because, so the player can see why they are getting removed to try and shake them into seeing where the problem really lies. It always leads to a kick, tis a shame, but their actions where spoiling it for everyone else.

I joined t9 through DF for the first time tonight and someone already got mad at me for only watching the cutscene :/

The typical questions followed and well, I am one of those who want to learn by doing it (and I think that's the best way for me*), so I did not watch a video. I felt really uncomfortable after this, because the other responses came off to me as negative, especially about the part for not watching a video.

I received some remarks for dieing early, someone would go mad because he/she studied so many vids and I didn't and in the end one of them would keep aggro'ing the boss to wipe us so he would get kicked.

Mind you, I did start a PF with a comment about "first time" and "learning it without having to watch a guide first" before entering the DF but other than a friend who went with me in the first place, no one else would join. Maybe it was because of the time (after midnight), but I have a bit of a bad feeling it won't be better if I try it during the day/evening again.

Well, at least my friend showed me a few things when we were in and I am grateful for that, but it's not like I begged her to do so. She also said that it's the only thing she'll tell me and that she'll always go in again with me to help me learn. I might be able to find a few more people who would go with me again, but I cannot say if it will be a full party.

tl;dr:
Went into t9 without watching a guide beforehand, got some negative responses but a few hints from a friend. Did start a PF before but wouldn't fill up in 1 hour - Now confused/unsure what (DF/PF) to use next time as it either contains mad/annoyed people or it's not a full group.


P.S.: I do not want to get carried. Even if I get a group full of people who have done it before (like t8) and I am the only one who didn't - I want to contribute to the fight, not lie around dead and try to understand what is going on. Gotta do t8 again to understand it fully though. Oh and I would never cuss at someone who gives out a helpful info to me. Biting a helping hand? Nah.


* I did so for t6 a while ago, but the screen looked messy to me and I couldn't really follow what was going on. Even if I understood a mechanic, doing it myself was giving me a hard time because I was kind of nervous. Just like now, while I am typing this post :S

[Davester]

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i am sorry,but from what you said you aren't exactly in the clear,just because your group didn't fill up does not justify you going in DF fully knowing that this is the type of community that expects you to atleast have a general idea of what you'll be doing via a guide,and you still went in DF fully knowing what the mechanics in this game are like(many of them will wipe a person that doesn't know what they do many,many times,infact some of them take the best teams in the game weeks to understand completely and that's why they make guides)you have to consider that odds are,you will be a liability for your group 9/10 times because your mindset is not very widespread.no,your group not filling up does not make it right that you wasted people's time like that,and no,just because you have a way of learning that's different from most people is not a bad thing,you just shouldn't push that on people that 9 out of 10 will expect anyone that goes to coil to atleast understand the mechanics from a guide