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    SummerSkye's Avatar
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    A'rora Nightfall
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    If a healer doesn't want to do a speed run. As a tank...you are not doing a speed run, believe me. Nowhere in your "job description" does it say you have a right, as a tank, to unilaterally decide for the group how the dungeon run is going to be pulled. As a matter of fact, if the two DPS want a full clear and the healer does not care...you are obligated, as the minority, to clear the whole dungeon for them (or ditch the group I guess).

    How ironic that the OP complain about the DPS being "entitled" when it is the OP, itself that is coming across as the entitled one.
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    Adire's Avatar
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    Erin Grey
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    Quote Originally Posted by SummerSkye View Post
    snip
    /facepalm

    More people not reading...

    ONE dps wanted exp. TWO people if you count the healer. 2 is not a majority in a 4 man. Me and my friend wanted a run without optional mob kills. And I've already said numerous times that if people ask me, not demand of me, or if I'm outnumbered, I go with the flow or leave.

    And the healer had no problems with a "speed run", or did not say anything about having problems with it. She wanted all mobs killed.

    Not to mention, this was in DD...the crystal buff makes an overgeared tank practically indestructible unless you pull all the first rooms at the same time, which I didn't.
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    Stouter Taru
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adire View Post
    And the healer had no problems with a "speed run", or did not say anything about having problems with it. She wanted all mobs killed.
    Part of the definition of a "speed run" is skipping optional mobs. It's not just pulling large groups and locking out trash at bosses when you can.
    Quote Originally Posted by Adire View Post
    There. was. no. majority.

    That means run pacing is rightfully up to the tank, due to it being most related to their job.
    So the tank is entitled to break the tie?
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    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    Part of the definition of a "speed run" is skipping optional mobs. It's not just pulling large groups and locking out trash at bosses when you can.

    So the tank is entitled to break the tie?
    The post the first quote was directed towards was one obviously focused on the increased damage taken during a speed run.

    And nice try, attempting to spin words that make your position look favorable.

    If they are "entitled", SE gave them that entitlement due to how tanks are designed. Are they not the best equipped to pull mobs?

    Quote Originally Posted by PEANUT View Post
    I think people understand what you are saying, and have sympathy for your situation. But I think people are against your idea that Tanks are the elite sole jurisdiction when it comes to making all the decisions that should be made by the whole party.
    I believe people are getting the wrong idea then. Not surprised given how clear it is that some haven't even read much into this topic.

    I do not have that idea that "tanks are the elite sole jurisdiction".

    I have said several times, and I'll say it yet again:

    If people outnumber me who want exp, I will do a clear or leave.

    If people ask me nicely and the majority doesn't have a problem with a clear, I will do a clear or leave.

    And I have yet to leave. In every situation so far, I have done the clear over leaving.

    If there is a tie between interests, I will do what I want if I am the tank. If I am not the tank, I leave it up to the tank. I do not go and pull mobs as a dps or healer like a child, because it's clear from the way that the roles are designed that that is intended to be done by tanks.
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    Last edited by Adire; 05-02-2015 at 12:38 PM.