Entitled DPS, please stop being entitled

[Fynlar]

Perhaps the person doesn't play on a PC and has a difficult time typing out flowery requests to the tank?

That's gob shite and you know it.

[XgungraveX]

That's gob shite and you know it.

agreed im on ps4 i have a keyboard.

[GenJoe]

Tank leads the group.
Don't like it? Frag him, let him die, he won't leave? vote kick him, get a new one.
Don't want to? Deal with it then, stick with him.

That comes not from the lack of tanks or their privileged position, it's simply because that's the role a tank plays in dungeons..

That said, I've hardly ever run into a tank who won't do a full run if asked.. nicely.
Only case I've seen tanks ignore such request is when they're doing a legitimate speed run, usually in full i130 gear, no rest between pulls and finishing the dungeon in under 20 minutes kind of deal. If that's the case, do you really need a full run? You're getting a whole dungeon run in under 20 minutes!

[LTEvil]

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I agree I am similar in experience with tanking. Most people expects the tank to know the pulls, know the dungeon pathing, know the mob kill order, know the bosses and control hate. But if you mess up 7 times out of 10 you'll get yelled at. After a while you simply become cold and take everyone's hand and lead the way. Its not ideal but get yelled at for something yo u didn't do enough times and your tolerance plummets.
After tanking for long periods of time you get used to just making group decisions. You aren't trying to he rude but you've learned if you do not lead and someone else does it may not be a smooth run. I think people just get offended entirely too easy.
But it's been said before tanks should set the pace. Nice ones Will ask. Good ones will determine pull pace on a pull by pull means as well as gauging comp.

[XgungraveX]

I agree I am similar in experience with tanking. Most people expects the tank to know the pulls, know the dungeon pathing, know the mob kill order, know the bosses and control hate. But if you mess up 7 times out of 10 you'll get yelled at. After a while you simply become cold and take everyone's hand and lead the way. Its not ideal but get yelled at for something yo u didn't do enough times and your tolerance plummets.
After tanking for long periods of time you get used to just making group decisions. You aren't trying to he rude but you've learned if you do not lead and someone else does it may not be a smooth run. I think people just get offended entirely too easy.
But it's been said before tanks should set the pace. Nice ones Will ask. Good ones will determine pull pace on a pull by pull means as well as gauging comp.

this times a million that why when people ask me should they play a tank i ask do you have really thick skin.

[Evangela]

I don't think anyone is wrong in that situation. just 2 group of people wanting to play the game the way they want, unfortunately got throw into a duty with each other.

btw, being a tank doesn't give you the rights to decide how the party's gonna play through the dungeon.

[GenJoe]

btw, being a tank doesn't give you the rights to decide how the party's gonna play through the dungeon.

Nope, it all comes down to who's more willing to eat a 30 minute penalty..

[Kat_Manx]

So.. tanks in this post think a DPS asking for something is entitlement, yet they don't think they are entitled at all if they decide exactly how a dungeon is done, without communicating with others, just because "well lulz I'm the tank so of course I can go as fast or as slow as I want?"

Yeah umm.. please don't ever tank for me. I'd rather be in a queue longer than deal with you.

Yes, the DPS could have nicer about it, but you also didn't have to "rebel".. just vote on the matter and then do what the majority wants and if he THEN can't deal with it then sure, his problem. But I've never really enjoyed the fact tanks pull whatever they want whenever they want without even asking if for example a speedrun is OK or not. The lack of communication in this game bothers me.

[Delsus]

I think I have read enough of the thread to come to a conclusion. You don't think DPS should feel entitled (and now before I proceed any further I should note that yes he could have asked in a more polite manner, and I do agree with that one) yet you feel entitled to run as you want because you are the tank and are designed to pull and control hate, you have said this many times up to page 6, so let's not disagree on that one. You should also take into account that it's the healer's job to keep you as the tank alive, so ultimately you could say the healers should ultimately feel the most entitled due to your own rules yes you control the pace of the dungeon running through, but if the pace is too fast for the healer they can just let you die.

If you just wanted to do a dungeon to speed run and skip everything you could (as you yourself said in the OP, both you and your friend wanted to be don asap) you should use the PF where you can make this plain before people join. If I am in DF and someone makes a specific request (especially pulling everything for exp) I would comply as a lot of people use DF for exp.

You also make the comment "He has a healer with him so has instant queues" Yes he did this ONCE, unless you know him and know he always queues with a healer this is not a valid comment because just because they queued with a healer once doesn't mean they will queue everytime, so yes you would just be nerfing his exp gained just to satisfy your own needs, which is being entitled.

DPS have as much right to gain exp as anyone else and to do anything as much as anyone and refusing his request is just plain selfish.