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  1. #381
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    Kallera's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercutial View Post
    This is absolutely the top o' the mountain gospel truth right here. And is something that so many have a hard time wrapping their minds around. Are top-tier raiders in the minority? Yes. But adjusted for actual play time and content consumption, I'd emphatically agree that the playing field is much more level.
    No one likes catering to the extremities only. That's why a lot of folk came to hate coil to begin with, and why there was a forum to do about the booing during fan fest at a story mode coil.

    If nothing else, the stats and thread show that Alexander has an audience, and the common view of endgame/pf may be causing a chilling effect on folks participating in endgame. If not addressed, the bleeding edge of raiding may remain limited in scope.
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    Last edited by Kallera; 04-29-2015 at 12:05 AM.

  2. #382
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    Still better than EU lol
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  3. #383
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    CatsBesErrwhere's Avatar
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    Afaik EU rly was never very good at the whole raiding feature in any game of this type. I just dont think it was ever THIS bad
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  4. #384
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    Hmm, what is annoying, is how this will affect Alexander. I understand wanting more people to raid but, seriously? Reward those who don't care to learn to press buttons?
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  5. #385
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skeith-Adeline View Post
    Hmm, what is annoying, is how this will affect Alexander. I understand wanting more people to raid but, seriously? Reward those who don't care to learn to press buttons?
    There are plenty of people who have tried raiding but get bashed to death by making a mistake or two. We all start somewhere and we all need our time to learn new stuff, and if you get bashed on just because you are not already as Pro as others, it really takes away the fun to even keep trying.
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  6. #386
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    No one likes catering to the extremities only. That's why a lot of folk came to hate coil to begin with, and why there was a forum to do about the booing during fan fest at a story mode coil.

    If nothing else, the stats and thread show that Alexander has an audience, and the common view of endgame/pf may be causing a chilling effect on folks participating in endgame. If not addressed, the bleeding edge of raiding may remain limited in scope.
    They were booing at coil nerfs (to already existing coil), not story mode coil. I don't think anybody has a problem with story mode coil to be honest, they just don't think it's necessary until 3.0. Personally I'm glad that both sides are getting attention in 3.0, maybe it will give some more people the confidence they need to actually try the hard versions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skeith-Adeline View Post
    Hmm, what is annoying, is how this will affect Alexander. I understand wanting more people to raid but, seriously? Reward those who don't care to learn to press buttons?
    Odds are the rewards for the hard version will be superior so it doesn't really matter. I didn't read the other 38 pages so if you're replying to somebody I missed it.
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    Last edited by DoctorPepper; 04-29-2015 at 12:50 AM.

  7. #387
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    snippity snip snip
    While this certainly happens, many forum-goers tend to seriously exaggerate the frequency. Which ironically is also a contributing factor to scare new players away from raiding.
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    When in doubt, assume sarcasm

  8. #388
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malevicton View Post
    While this certainly happens, many forum-goers tend to seriously exaggerate the frequency. Which ironically is also a contributing factor to scare new players away from raiding.
    True true, the power of words are quite scary.
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  9. #389
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    Here's the thing... get your practice in using the DF. Bring some thick skin because there will always be some commandos in the group. But keep this in mind. They're using DF as well, so chances are they're not entirely the cream of the crop either. Again... the loudest and most obnoxious in raids/instances tend to have some degree of insecurity running thru their veins.

    Once you start to get the hang of mechanics, set up progression/clear parties in PF. These will always fill up. Just be patient.
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  10. #390
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    Quote Originally Posted by CatsBesErrwhere View Post
    Afaik EU rly was never very good at the whole raiding feature in any game of this type. I just dont think it was ever THIS bad
    Wrong, EU has held 98% or around that number of the world firsts in WOW.

    Only other regions that has got a world first over EU was 1 kill from south Korea (HC Deathwing) and 1 kill from china (Yogg 0 lights).

    The main reason those players from EU guilds in WOW not playing this game is the servers are in Canada and are not on equal footing against Japan with much better infrastructure.
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    Last edited by raelgun; 04-29-2015 at 01:25 AM.

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