Fan Census: This is embarrassing

[Eye_Gore]

It's full Japanese server completion of FCOB vs full US/EU server completion of FCOB. It's not skewed at all.

What I'm sayin is the numbers do not reflect the ability of any player as this whole thread pretty much turned into a NA player base bash, based on those numbers. What we do not know is how many people actually participate in the aforementioned instance.

I'll use my server as an example Malboro .8%. Now is that number based on my entire server population? Say that only .8% of server have completed it, or is it .8% of the whole of everyone that has attempted it? The numbers are being used to gauge the NA player base, but we have nothing to compare it to. If say .9% of my server attempted the instance and .8% have completed it I would say thats pretty good. If my whole server has attempted it and only .8% completed it, yeah thats bad. However I know for a fact the latter is not true.

[Souljacker]

NA players will rip one another to shreds\ragequit after one mistake, and you think it's shocking that many players don't have this content done?

[Whocareswhatmynameis]

NA players will rip one another to shreds\ragequit after one mistake, and you think it's shocking that many players don't have this content done?

Japanese players probably just have more players in static groups doing coil. I've noticed a common trend among NA/WoW players. They want gear for every second of every minute of every day they play the game. If they don't get something for running a trial/dungeon/raid they get upset. If they can't one shot a trial they get upset, and ask for nerfs. If they log on and can't constantly make progress every minute they play, they give up. It's almost as if people think the game is a job and the only reason they play is for the gear/reward, and not for simply having fun or killing a few hours. World of Warcraft did a great disservice by making drops 100%, no other online RPG did that before WoW.

Simply put, NA players give up too easy.

[Imoye]

JP players are far more dedicated. Western players simply don't care about much else than having fun.

[Zorvan]

I feel neither pathetic nor embarrassed. But then again, I hold no special regard for titles related to pixels and my e-peen requires no stroking.

[RyuRoots]

I feel neither pathetic nor embarrassed. But then again, I hold no special regard for titles related to pixels and my e-peen requires no stroking.

This so, so much. Not sure why people care at all what other people do or don't clear anyway outside of very immediately wanting friends to help them with stuff.

[Crystel_Leah]

I'll rephrase. I'm embarrassed to be a part of a community wherein I feel shamed into helping other people beat T5 because their FCs and LSs are strictly social chat rooms and seemingly few people want to actually play the game.

[Imoye]

I'll rephrase. I'm embarrassed to be a part of a community wherein I feel shamed into helping other people beat T5 because their FCs and LSs are strictly social chat rooms and seemingly few people want to actually play the game.

Since when was raiding the only way to play the game?

If they're in an FC not doing relevant content, then they're in the wrong FC. Switch. Never been a problem to get anything down if you truly want to.

[Magusrex]

I'll rephrase. I'm embarrassed to be a part of a community wherein I feel shamed into helping other people beat T5 because their FCs and LSs are strictly social chat rooms and seemingly few people want to actually play the game.

Don't be embarrassed, you are privileged to play with such an evolved NA player base. Many of us have led large guilds in other games for over a decade. We have been there and done that. Our cheese has been moved enough. We have settled into this game because there is so much to do without raiding and statics that provide us with satisfaction and enjoyment. Don't think you are special because you completed all the raiding in this game just like I am not special because I crushed all the raiding EQ1, WoW, LOTRO and EQ2 had to offer when they first came out. I could claim it was harder, but it wasn't, it was all about the time invested. Yeah, near server first's felt good, but it was just a function of time spent, DKP tracking, parse studying, strat posting, loot drama ect. It is all the same, move here, move there, heal him, interrupt that, caster tank for this, raid dance that...blah blah blah. It is just timing, practice and time invested. No one is special or better than anyone else because time investment choice, you just have different priorities.

[Crystel_Leah]

Since when was raiding the only way to play the game?

If they're in an FC not doing relevant content, then they're in the wrong FC. Switch. Never been a problem to get anything down if you truly want to.

A problem for who? You? Then I'm not talking about you. Discuss without being dismissive and I'll do the same.