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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    Summoner lore is consistent throughout Final Fantasy.
    Yeah, man. The Fayth, Espers, and the Primals are all the same thing, right?

    And for everyone who says that SmN is all about burst damage, you don't seem to have a problem with Yuna.

    re: powerlevel comparisons:

    Across FF, BLM would just cast Silence. GG, no summons. enjoy NUKE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmewKitsune View Post
    Yeah, man. The Fayth, Espers, and the Primals are all the same thing, right?

    And for everyone who says that SmN is all about burst damage, you don't seem to have a problem with Yuna.

    re: powerlevel comparisons:

    Across FF, BLM would just cast Silence. GG, no summons. enjoy NUKE.
    Fayth are Aeons which are Summons for Final Fantasy X, Espers are created Summon Monsters from Final Fantasy XII and and Primals are Summons for Final Fantasy XIV.
    People don't have a problem with Yuna because the Summoner was the main focus not the White Mage. The Summoned Monsters themselves do AoE Bursts Damage.
    Power level wises the casting magic of the Summoner was generally weaker than their Summon.

    I want Enkindle's cool down to be reduced to 120s and locked to the Egi not Summon the Primal that should be a level 60 spell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    Fayth are Aeons which are Summons for Final Fantasy X, Espers are created Summon Monsters from Final Fantasy XII and and Primals are Summons for Final Fantasy XIV.
    I was talking from a lore perspective. I assure you, they are NOT the same thing, even mechanically. Saying they are "consistent across the board" is erroneous. All that's the same is "power comes from somewhere else". By the way, I wasn't referring to FFVI when I said "Espers".

    http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/E...al_Fantasy_XII)
    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    People don't have a problem with Yuna because the Summoner was the main focus not the White Mage. The Summoned Monsters themselves do AoE Bursts Damage.
    Power level wises the casting magic of the Summoner was generally weaker than their Summon.
    Oh no, they aren't. Yuna's main combat focus WAS White Mage. Summons were rarely used because no Party member could act while summoned, thus on random encounters, useless. That, and IN 10, while most players don't even bother with it unless they had Grand Summon for it's Overdrive, which I guess makes it burst damage, except that's not the main function of summons. They were just a big player that had tons of HP, and didn't learn any ability.
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