shorten the content timers!

[darkstarpoet1]

people here seem to be of the opinion that because they enjoy grinding for hours everyone else should be forced to do the same thing. there are people in game that enjoyed leve parties and do not enjoy open world camp pull and spank grinding. we do not like grind parties and have never said that should be taken away, but because you do not like leves you want them removed.

we have to understand that people have multiple playing styles and multiple opinions on what is fun. just because some people finds leve parties fun does not mean you are wrong for wanting more grinding, but the other way around is saying you want grinding so people are wrong for wanting leve parties. it's a double standard, but about par for the course around here.

[DeadRiser]

people here seem to be of the opinion that because they enjoy grinding for hours everyone else should be forced to do the same thing. there are people in game that enjoyed leve parties and do not enjoy open world camp pull and spank grinding. we do not like grind parties and have never said that should be taken away, but because you do not like leves you want them removed.

we have to understand that people have multiple playing styles and multiple opinions on what is fun. just because some people finds leve parties fun does not mean you are wrong for wanting more grinding, but the other way around is saying you want grinding so people are wrong for wanting leve parties. it's a double standard, but about par for the course around here.

I can respect that people prefer the leves.

BUT they are adding more content as we speak. Behests, Raids, Grinding, Quests... There are soo many opportunities to gain SP right now.

It's not all about playstyle though. You have to think about it on a game developers level. It's about balancing leveling and if leves reset every 4-8 hours, everyone would be rank50 in a matter of possibly 4 days.

That's not what we need.

[darkstarpoet1]

I can respect that people prefer the leves.

BUT they are adding more content as we speak. Behests, Raids, Grinding, Quests... There are soo many opportunities to gain SP right now.

It's not all about playstyle though. You have to think about it on a game developers level. It's about balancing leveling and if leves reset every 4-8 hours, everyone would be rank50 in a matter of possibly 4 days.

That's not what we need.

i was not responding to the 4-8 hour reset like was mentioned in the op. i was referring to the people in this thread that keep saying they should be put on a longer timer than they are now. i would never suggest anything lower than a 24 hour timer so you could do a set of leves a day for the casuals. i would never reduce it less than that because then it is not what i would consider casual content because i don't know any casuals that have time to run 3-6 full sets of leves every day. if they are on long enough to do that many sets of leves there's many other options to do.

Leve currently give much more SP than Grind. Therefore if leve is repeatable unlimited time, SP reward will need to be dumb-ed down to things balanced. If they are reduced, OP will not like it. Let's face it, this game isn't aiming to let people capping their rank within 1 week. Even SWTOR isn't, unless they lie about the 100 hour long story worth to cap.

i know a few that have been in the game only since a week or so before the patch and are already almost to 50 on their second class by just grinding. what's the difference?

like i said above i never said a 4-8 hour timer so they could be ran repeatedly. i was just saying they should not be extended to like 48+ that some others have mentioned.

[Kailok]

i was not responding to the 4-8 hour reset like was mentioned in the op. i was referring to the people in this thread that keep saying they should be put on a longer timer than they are now. i would never suggest anything lower than a 24 hour timer so you could do a set of leves a day for the casuals. i would never reduce it less than that because then it is not what i would consider casual content because i don't know any casuals that have time to run 3-6 full sets of leves every day. if they are on long enough to do that many sets of leves there's many other options to do.



i know a few that have been in the game only since a week or so before the patch and are already almost to 50 on their second class by just grinding. what's the difference?

like i said above i never said a 4-8 hour timer so they could be ran repeatedly. i was just saying they should not be extended to like 48+ that some others have mentioned.

I don't know if they were suggesting it should be raised or not, but I'm pretty sure one of the devs came forward and said they probably would be increasing the timer. Which..yeah, that sucks..a lot, actually.

But..who knows, maybe if they increase the timer, they might increase the rewards. That means 4 leves a day, and if it's increased then it could be something like 5k a pop, so you've got yourself 20k extra easy EXP means per day. Or you could even do 8 leves in one day. I'd be more accepting of this once we have more content to do between the 25-45 dungeons.

[MariyaShidou]

people here seem to be of the opinion that because they enjoy grinding for hours everyone else should be forced to do the same thing. there are people in game that enjoyed leve parties and do not enjoy open world camp pull and spank grinding. we do not like grind parties and have never said that should be taken away, but because you do not like leves you want them removed.

we have to understand that people have multiple playing styles and multiple opinions on what is fun. just because some people finds leve parties fun does not mean you are wrong for wanting more grinding, but the other way around is saying you want grinding so people are wrong for wanting leve parties. it's a double standard, but about par for the course around here.

Leve currently give much more SP than Grind. Therefore if leve is repeatable unlimited time, SP reward will need to be dumb-ed down to things balanced. If they are reduced, OP will not like it. Let's face it, this game isn't aiming to let people capping their rank within 1 week. Even SWTOR isn't, unless they lie about the 100 hour long story worth to cap.

[Kailok]

Leve currently give much more SP than Grind. Therefore if leve is repeatable unlimited time, SP reward will need to be dumb-ed down to things balanced. If they are reduced, OP will not like it. Let's face it, this game isn't aiming to let people capping their rank within 1 week. Even SWTOR isn't, unless they lie about the 100 hour long story worth to cap.

Actually, at 2010's E3 they mentioned each class having a total of 700 hours of storyline for their own personal storyline. Now, most of that could be endgame, but who knows.

[Kailok]

people here seem to be of the opinion that because they enjoy grinding for hours everyone else should be forced to do the same thing. there are people in game that enjoyed leve parties and do not enjoy open world camp pull and spank grinding. we do not like grind parties and have never said that should be taken away, but because you do not like leves you want them removed.

we have to understand that people have multiple playing styles and multiple opinions on what is fun. just because some people finds leve parties fun does not mean you are wrong for wanting more grinding, but the other way around is saying you want grinding so people are wrong for wanting leve parties. it's a double standard, but about par for the course around here.

Who in the world said Leves should be removed? All I'M saying is that Leves shouldn't be changed from how they are now.

You do realize that Leves AND Behests are both essentially grinding, right? You just have specific targets and you're one from point A to point B instead of sitting around to rest your MP. You can even get more reward within an hour than people who grind instead. Sure, you can only do 2 Behests every hour and 1/2, but at least it keeps quick-fingered players from hoarding the Behests from people who are patiently waiting their turn. 45 minutes makes sense.

So, technically, you're doing less work (Leves that require you to pick up pages off the ground isn't exactly what I'd call "tough content"), with the ability to do it solo, for more/equal amount of EXP that a grind party can get in an hour.

I'm sorry but I don't see what's left to complain about. It's a great way to get SP, but it's not in the center light anymore and shouldn't be. I didn't buy this game because I wanted to do Leves all day. We'll get more content in the future, so this is just our reality right now.