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  1. #1
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    Tsukino's Avatar
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    Tsukino Mahou
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    My highest is rank 37 and I say "no" to being able to chain solo leves all week long. They are for casual solo/duo leveling, when you only have a couple hours or have to go AFK for things and can only play in small amounts. If you're going to be on all day, then you have enough time to join a party.

    If they shortened the timer then they'd also have to reduce rewards so that partying is still appealing. And I rather like the rewards the way they are now when I only have a short time.

    They are going to make a kind of "ticket" system for leves though in the near future, so people who want to solo a ton all in a row will also be able to do that.
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    Holland Stark
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    Marauder Lv 24
    Unfortunately at the moment were in a void per se, when it comes to group based rank up activities. Guildleves are where they should be, and there are even talks about increasing the timer beyond the 36 hour cool down.

    Group content should be addressed in future patches, but I do remind you this is not a complete game in any sense of the word when it comes to content and daily activities, my advise is to take it easy with leves until everything is in place, you will enjoy it more later.
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    Livi Fi
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    Machinist Lv 90
    This game just needs more content, but shortening the timers are not going to help. People will get more bored at leves and people will start doing leves all day.

    There's no fatigue anymore so you can grind all you like now without SP penalty and that is very good. I only did levelink PTs for about 10 ranks, PTs were hard to find because my timezone sucks sometimes. So I grind. And most of the time solo (which ain't that fun).
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    Tezz Xivectro
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Coming from FF11, not everyone wants to grind. It's pathetically dull & boring in this game. Even in group PT.
    If monsters had chains & dropped chests or something then sure.

    Leves have been needing a faster reset since release. 16-20hrs & base the timer per class only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tezz_Xivectro View Post
    Coming from FF11, not everyone wants to grind. It's pathetically dull & boring in this game. Even in group PT.
    If monsters had chains & dropped chests or something then sure.

    Leves have been needing a faster reset since release. 16-20hrs & base the timer per class only.
    this is why i have yet to level anything besides crafting since the update. i find group grinding the most boring thing in the game. to me sitting and solo crafting or gathering classes are more fun than group grinds.
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    Kipp Kaida
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    I'm DEFINATELY NO RANK 50 and I entirely disagree with this. 4-8 hours? Especially with the reward of the amount of sp they give for leve completion now? NO WAY will I agree with this. It's actually NOT that hard to rank up right now.

    I'm with the Rank 50's on this one. Switch it up and go grind. A day and a half is actually a pretty short wait for
    8 leves
    On average about 3k sp per leve completion
    that's atleast 24k sp. Enough to rank you up lot's of times, not including if it's with other people and their leves as well.

    Go grind. It's fun. There's also quests, the raids... I mean come on.. It's not that bad.

    EDIT: Personally I see that all the sp they give at the end of leves still seems a bit much. I almost earned 62K sp doing 8 of my leves and 12 others. Plus 3 behests in between.
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    Doom Cky
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    Pugilist Lv 80
    Yoshi has said Guildleves are moveing from main point of game, and if they shorten the wait time, it will becomemore importent.
    Infact they should make the wait longer. Casue the player base NEEDS to learnto group up with each other.
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    Khalus Akuhei
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoomCky View Post
    Casue the player base NEEDS to learnto group up with each other.
    And the devs need to learn how to properly add the seek party and player search features so we can find others.
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    Tezz Xivectro
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    I've been doing only Leves since 1.18 and it's working. By the time i'm finished with them (about 1-2hrs) i already don't feel like playing. Todays reset got my MRD from a wee-bit into Lv.25 to Lv.27. If you stick with leves every reset then you could push through the 30's in no time. The only downside is you can only focus on 1 class at a time doing this (not entirely bad thing).

    There still needs to be something done with leves though. I solo'd a 5-star in Nophica Wells as R26 getting less than Horizon leves. The behests there were also less. They should have been around the same to slightly higher than Horizon, regardless of being lower level, imo.

    It's manageable, but that's just it, players want to have fun in the game world not just get by. After my leves, i literally feel like i should just stop for next reset. Maybe go craft for a few and then log. The game feels like a clock you can't escape.
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    Kailok Anarhin
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    Hyperion
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    I will agree that a Behest re-timer of 45 minutes, or however long it is, is a bit steep, but I do understand why they did it. It wasn't fair that Behest would end within half an hour and then the same people would come back and manage to get into the event before me again even though I waited my turn.

    However, instead of an 8-person cap, I believe they should change Behest drastically in the future and make it scaled content. Going off the ideology that ArenaNet is trying to give with Guild Wars 2: We should be happy to see other players, not be like "...crap, now I have to battle them for a spot/drop/etc".

    For the future: say only 1 person shows up to a certain Behest. Great, then it scales to the difficulty of what 1 person could handle. However, if 16-24 people showed up, the difficulty should adapt to such and increase the amount of mobs, mob HP%, and AI (different abilities, AoE moves, hitting harder). It should also allow you an option to auto-alliance the parties together and then disperse them easily at the end of the Behest. If they did something like this, they should also look into getting rid of the timer for Behests, or at least increasing the timer to allow battles to really come into their own.

    Kind of like how Besieged would sometimes be either level 3 or level 5. Scaled open-world content that includes everyone without making it seem like more players is a bad thing is something this game needs. But that's just my opinion on the matter.


    As for leves. I have no problem with the 36 hour timer. With the fixes to the sp gained after 1.18a/b, my SP I can get within an hour of doing Leves is great. Sure, you don't get as much when it's not your turn for your leve, but still. If you add the amount of SP you get from mobs killed with how much you received, and then times that by 8 per 36 hours...I'd say it's fair. Otherwise, people would be hitting 50 in no time flat.
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    Insulting people in the counter argument isn't going to change their minds. It will make them stick harder to their opinion regardless of whether or not it's right, and think less of your opinion simply because you insulted them. In essence, if you want to try and change someone's mind, come up with a well thought-out response and don't be a dick.

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