shorten the content timers!

[ChiefCurrahee]

shorten the 36 hour guildleve reset to something more enjoyable like maybe reset every 4-8 hours.
that way if you log in, we always have content available no matter what.
> Sleepless night? log in, Leves are there for you.
> No one wants to invite your melee to a dungeon, do some leves instead of logging out.
>Want to rank up more than 1 job but no one is willing to PT? Leves got your back!

Change the behest cooldowns. Seriously, camps are by in large abandoned save the few people out doing Leves. (which are few because of long resets)

make Behest happen more frequently like every 15min. Shorten the cooldown for repeat to something like 30 min and make the cool down camp specific. If we have Rank 40 leves at 2 different camps, If we behest and Leve at one camp, we should be able to change camps and Behest and Leve at the new camp w/o penalty of timers.

I was surprised by the 5 min reentry times on the dungeons (i think we all expected a 24-48 hour cool down) The rest of the games content should follow suit!

[Petori]

Meh people should not do just leves or behest only. Go out there and grind regular mobs. Or do sidequests.

[NoctisUmbra]

No.

/10disagreements

[ChiefCurrahee]

It's easy for all of you with multiple rank 50's to say "no" or "go grind"

Tell me how did you get multi rank 50's? Levelink PT?

The game is sorely lacking in easy access repeatable content.

I don't want to draw comparisons to other MMO's but their content is by in large built around questing and repeatable content to progress through the game that is on a per character basis.
i.e. In LoTRo,WoW,Rift ect. ect. you have 1 character 1 job. You are presented with content that will progress that character from 1-level cap, w/o delays.
In FF as you're all aware we have 1 character multi jobs progressing on limited content. Currently NPC quests are one time only deals, not repeatable, on multiple jobs. Leves offer ~30-1hr on content every 36 hours. Behests you can do 1 a hour. It leaves a giant void in easy access available content in this MMO.

You say go grind. I have and I will.
It's hard to look at this game that we've been used to playing for a while (since alpha 1 for myself) and think of what these limits mean to new potential players, or when the ps3 version launches. Those people will be brought into this great world, and soon expend all means of progression sans grinding. Thats not how it should be.

If behests are shortend and leve timers greatly reduced like I proposed It still leaves several hours of content void just not 36 hour gaps.

[Delsus]

It's easy for all of you with multiple rank 50's to say "no" or "go grind"

Tell me how did you get multi rank 50's? Levelink PT?

The game is sorely lacking in easy access repeatable content.

I don't want to draw comparisons to other MMO's but their content is by in large built around questing and repeatable content to progress through the game that is on a per character basis.
i.e. In LoTRo,WoW,Rift ect. ect. you have 1 character 1 job. You are presented with content that will progress that character from 1-level cap, w/o delays.
In FF as you're all aware we have 1 character multi jobs progressing on limited content. Currently NPC quests are one time only deals, not repeatable, on multiple jobs. Leves offer ~30-1hr on content every 36 hours. Behests you can do 1 a hour. It leaves a giant void in easy access available content in this MMO.

You say go grind. I have and I will.
It's hard to look at this game that we've been used to playing for a while (since alpha 1 for myself) and think of what these limits mean to new potential players, or when the ps3 version launches. Those people will be brought into this great world, and soon expend all means of progression sans grinding. Thats not how it should be.

If behests are shortend and leve timers greatly reduced like I proposed It still leaves several hours of content void just not 36 hour gaps.

Leve links were the best way to get multiple rank 50s, but there not that great now, leves solo is just as good, the main complaint with ffxiv is that it doesnt have much content which the devs are working on as fast as possible. I do think now leves are based around solo play (ie what Yoshida said about casual during the week and hardcore at the weekends) the cooldown should be dropped at the very least 24hrs so if you only have a few hours to play each day you can get somthing done every day rather than every 1.5 days, I think making it 8hrs like somone said would be a lil broken and they would have to lower completion sp a bit 6.9k for 8 leves is 54k, make that every 8 hours you could be looking into 163k every day, which could make it better than people get partying.

Because if alot of people can get better sp solo they will solo rather than party, they will prefer to solo, which is why solo sp should always be lower than party sp.

[NoctisUmbra]

It's easy for all of you with multiple rank 50's to say "no" or "go grind"

Tell me how did you get multi rank 50's? Levelink PT?

The game is sorely lacking in easy access repeatable content.

I don't want to draw comparisons to other MMO's but their content is by in large built around questing and repeatable content to progress through the game that is on a per character basis.
i.e. In LoTRo,WoW,Rift ect. ect. you have 1 character 1 job. You are presented with content that will progress that character from 1-level cap, w/o delays.
In FF as you're all aware we have 1 character multi jobs progressing on limited content. Currently NPC quests are one time only deals, not repeatable, on multiple jobs. Leves offer ~30-1hr on content every 36 hours. Behests you can do 1 a hour. It leaves a giant void in easy access available content in this MMO.

You say go grind. I have and I will.
It's hard to look at this game that we've been used to playing for a while (since alpha 1 for myself) and think of what these limits mean to new potential players, or when the ps3 version launches. Those people will be brought into this great world, and soon expend all means of progression sans grinding. Thats not how it should be.

If behests are shortend and leve timers greatly reduced like I proposed It still leaves several hours of content void just not 36 hour gaps.

You're missing the point entirely. I've met more than a handful of people in game that recently started and just obtained their first r50 after 1.18, and are already getting their classes up and working on their 2nd 50s.

Leves + Behest + Grinds + Quests. Do everything the game has to offer at their availability. While we had leve link parties, we also had surplus to slow us down - something that doesn't exist anymore. I'm not saying it's not more demanding to gain sp now than it was then, but lowering timers on leves to something as low as 3-4 hours and behests to every 15 minutes is not a solution.

This game is gaining content and is essentially still developing. The solution is more content, which the devs are working on. Not making it so the current content is spammable.

So I say again.

No.

[ChiefCurrahee]

You're missing the point entirely. I've met more than a handful of people in game that recently started and just obtained their first r50 after 1.18, and are already getting their classes up and working on their 2nd 50s.

Leves + Behest + Grinds + Quests. Do everything the game has to offer at their availability. While we had leve link parties, we also had surplus to slow us down - something that doesn't exist anymore. I'm not saying it's not more demanding to gain sp now than it was then, but lowering timers on leves to something as low as 3-4 hours and behests to every 15 minutes is not a solution.

This game is gaining content and is essentially still developing. The solution is more content, which the devs are working on. Not making it so the current content is spammable.

So I say again.

No.

No, I didn't miss the point. I don't think you understand what I'm getting at.
If I log in on monday and I pick up 8 leves That gives me about 1 hour worth of content. I do a Behest that about 5-10 min worth of content. Now what do I have left?
Side quests and grind?
OK I've exhausted, all the rank 20 - 40 quests that I can find. So i put my nose to the stone and start killing mobs. I ask in LS (multiple) hey anyone want to SP grind? R38-45ish? and I get "sorry nothing in that range" "Im working on xyz right now" ect. ect. So I turn to the party seek function. No parties are seeking members. So i begin to recruit, while recruiting I kill mob after mob after mob and a hour later no one joins my PT. So I log out, until the next day (which I hope is a reset day) to try again.

Thats the world I play in. How many others do you think play in that world? How many people coming to this game now post 1.18 will experience what I'm experiencing?

Believe you me ,I have been grinding. I'm trying to catch up to my friends who have been sitting pretty @ R50, I'm 10k to R42 atm.

My concern is lack of repeatable easily accessible content, for any time, any where in the game. Because as it stands right now, currently, there still isn't much repeatable worthwhile content to partake in on a whim.

And Grinding =/= Content.


If you want something to succeed you have to make it accessible to every player on their time.

But what ever right? We can wait another year for the devs to put in enough content for us to play any job any where any time.

[NoctisUmbra]

No, I didn't miss the point. I don't think you understand what I'm getting at.
If I log in on monday and I pick up 8 leves That gives me about 1 hour worth of content. I do a Behest that about 5-10 min worth of content. Now what do I have left?
Side quests and grind?
OK I've exhausted, all the rank 20 - 40 quests that I can find. So i put my nose to the stone and start killing mobs. I ask in LS (multiple) hey anyone want to SP grind? R38-45ish? and I get "sorry nothing in that range" "Im working on xyz right now" ect. ect. So I turn to the party seek function. No parties are seeking members. So i begin to recruit, while recruiting I kill mob after mob after mob and a hour later no one joins my PT. So I log out, until the next day (which I hope is a reset day) to try again.

Thats the world I play in. How many others do you think play in that world? How many people coming to this game now post 1.18 will experience what I'm experiencing?

Believe you me ,I have been grinding. I'm trying to catch up to my friends who have been sitting pretty @ R50, I'm 10k to R42 atm.

My concern is lack of repeatable easily accessible content, for any time, any where in the game. Because as it stands right now, currently, there still isn't much repeatable worthwhile content to partake in on a whim.

And Grinding =/= Content.


If you want something to succeed you have to make it accessible to every player on their time.

But what ever right? We can wait another year for the devs to put in enough content for us to play any job any where any time.

You didn't miss the point?

I'm going to take that quote of mine, and emphasize it with some bolds

You're missing the point entirely. I've met more than a handful of people in game that recently started and just obtained their first r50 after 1.18, and are already getting their classes up and working on their 2nd 50s.

Leves + Behest + Grinds + Quests. Do everything the game has to offer at their availability. While we had leve link parties, we also had surplus to slow us down - something that doesn't exist anymore. I'm not saying it's not more demanding to gain sp now than it was then, but lowering timers on leves to something as low as 3-4 hours and behests to every 15 minutes is not a solution.

This game is gaining content and is essentially still developing. The solution is more content, which the devs are working on. Not making it so the current content is spammable.

So I say again.

No.

Are you asking for acknowledgement that FFXIV, currently an incomplete game that is a work in progress, lacks content?

If so, then yes. It most certainly does.

Yoshi-P made it very clear that especially the series of patches starting with 1.18 will be drastically altering the game's content. We know that changes are coming. We know that more content is coming. That will be the solution to this dilemma that, believe me, is not exclusive to you.

I understand your frustration. I do not agree with your proposed solution at all.

Making current content spamy =/= content.

[Jynx]

It's easy for all of you with multiple rank 50's to say "no" or "go grind"

How bout as a person with 0 50's I say still no.

[Saien]

I would actually be ok with them increasing the timer as long as they increased the reward respectively. Something like 3 days for leves to reset but double the SP. That way we get the same amount of SP from them that we do now, but don't have to make a chore out of it. Then throw in the new content coming and grinding in the gaps. Just my 2 cents. Somebody else could probably refine this better but it's 5 in the morning and I just threw this together in about 30 seconds. *Goes to bed*