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  1. #1
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    ChiefCurrahee's Avatar
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    shorten the content timers!

    shorten the 36 hour guildleve reset to something more enjoyable like maybe reset every 4-8 hours.
    that way if you log in, we always have content available no matter what.
    > Sleepless night? log in, Leves are there for you.
    > No one wants to invite your melee to a dungeon, do some leves instead of logging out.
    >Want to rank up more than 1 job but no one is willing to PT? Leves got your back!

    Change the behest cooldowns. Seriously, camps are by in large abandoned save the few people out doing Leves. (which are few because of long resets)

    make Behest happen more frequently like every 15min. Shorten the cooldown for repeat to something like 30 min and make the cool down camp specific. If we have Rank 40 leves at 2 different camps, If we behest and Leve at one camp, we should be able to change camps and Behest and Leve at the new camp w/o penalty of timers.

    I was surprised by the 5 min reentry times on the dungeons (i think we all expected a 24-48 hour cool down) The rest of the games content should follow suit!
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    Livi Fi
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Meh people should not do just leves or behest only. Go out there and grind regular mobs. Or do sidequests.
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    No.

    /10disagreements
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    It's easy for all of you with multiple rank 50's to say "no" or "go grind"

    Tell me how did you get multi rank 50's? Levelink PT?

    The game is sorely lacking in easy access repeatable content.

    I don't want to draw comparisons to other MMO's but their content is by in large built around questing and repeatable content to progress through the game that is on a per character basis.
    i.e. In LoTRo,WoW,Rift ect. ect. you have 1 character 1 job. You are presented with content that will progress that character from 1-level cap, w/o delays.
    In FF as you're all aware we have 1 character multi jobs progressing on limited content. Currently NPC quests are one time only deals, not repeatable, on multiple jobs. Leves offer ~30-1hr on content every 36 hours. Behests you can do 1 a hour. It leaves a giant void in easy access available content in this MMO.

    You say go grind. I have and I will.
    It's hard to look at this game that we've been used to playing for a while (since alpha 1 for myself) and think of what these limits mean to new potential players, or when the ps3 version launches. Those people will be brought into this great world, and soon expend all means of progression sans grinding. Thats not how it should be.

    If behests are shortend and leve timers greatly reduced like I proposed It still leaves several hours of content void just not 36 hour gaps.
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    My highest is rank 37 and I say "no" to being able to chain solo leves all week long. They are for casual solo/duo leveling, when you only have a couple hours or have to go AFK for things and can only play in small amounts. If you're going to be on all day, then you have enough time to join a party.

    If they shortened the timer then they'd also have to reduce rewards so that partying is still appealing. And I rather like the rewards the way they are now when I only have a short time.

    They are going to make a kind of "ticket" system for leves though in the near future, so people who want to solo a ton all in a row will also be able to do that.
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    Holland Stark
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    Faerie
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    Marauder Lv 24
    Unfortunately at the moment were in a void per se, when it comes to group based rank up activities. Guildleves are where they should be, and there are even talks about increasing the timer beyond the 36 hour cool down.

    Group content should be addressed in future patches, but I do remind you this is not a complete game in any sense of the word when it comes to content and daily activities, my advise is to take it easy with leves until everything is in place, you will enjoy it more later.
    (2)

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    Delsus Highwind
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefCurrahee View Post
    It's easy for all of you with multiple rank 50's to say "no" or "go grind"

    Tell me how did you get multi rank 50's? Levelink PT?

    The game is sorely lacking in easy access repeatable content.

    I don't want to draw comparisons to other MMO's but their content is by in large built around questing and repeatable content to progress through the game that is on a per character basis.
    i.e. In LoTRo,WoW,Rift ect. ect. you have 1 character 1 job. You are presented with content that will progress that character from 1-level cap, w/o delays.
    In FF as you're all aware we have 1 character multi jobs progressing on limited content. Currently NPC quests are one time only deals, not repeatable, on multiple jobs. Leves offer ~30-1hr on content every 36 hours. Behests you can do 1 a hour. It leaves a giant void in easy access available content in this MMO.

    You say go grind. I have and I will.
    It's hard to look at this game that we've been used to playing for a while (since alpha 1 for myself) and think of what these limits mean to new potential players, or when the ps3 version launches. Those people will be brought into this great world, and soon expend all means of progression sans grinding. Thats not how it should be.

    If behests are shortend and leve timers greatly reduced like I proposed It still leaves several hours of content void just not 36 hour gaps.
    Leve links were the best way to get multiple rank 50s, but there not that great now, leves solo is just as good, the main complaint with ffxiv is that it doesnt have much content which the devs are working on as fast as possible. I do think now leves are based around solo play (ie what Yoshida said about casual during the week and hardcore at the weekends) the cooldown should be dropped at the very least 24hrs so if you only have a few hours to play each day you can get somthing done every day rather than every 1.5 days, I think making it 8hrs like somone said would be a lil broken and they would have to lower completion sp a bit 6.9k for 8 leves is 54k, make that every 8 hours you could be looking into 163k every day, which could make it better than people get partying.

    Because if alot of people can get better sp solo they will solo rather than party, they will prefer to solo, which is why solo sp should always be lower than party sp.
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    This game just needs more content, but shortening the timers are not going to help. People will get more bored at leves and people will start doing leves all day.

    There's no fatigue anymore so you can grind all you like now without SP penalty and that is very good. I only did levelink PTs for about 10 ranks, PTs were hard to find because my timezone sucks sometimes. So I grind. And most of the time solo (which ain't that fun).
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefCurrahee View Post
    It's easy for all of you with multiple rank 50's to say "no" or "go grind"

    Tell me how did you get multi rank 50's? Levelink PT?

    The game is sorely lacking in easy access repeatable content.

    I don't want to draw comparisons to other MMO's but their content is by in large built around questing and repeatable content to progress through the game that is on a per character basis.
    i.e. In LoTRo,WoW,Rift ect. ect. you have 1 character 1 job. You are presented with content that will progress that character from 1-level cap, w/o delays.
    In FF as you're all aware we have 1 character multi jobs progressing on limited content. Currently NPC quests are one time only deals, not repeatable, on multiple jobs. Leves offer ~30-1hr on content every 36 hours. Behests you can do 1 a hour. It leaves a giant void in easy access available content in this MMO.

    You say go grind. I have and I will.
    It's hard to look at this game that we've been used to playing for a while (since alpha 1 for myself) and think of what these limits mean to new potential players, or when the ps3 version launches. Those people will be brought into this great world, and soon expend all means of progression sans grinding. Thats not how it should be.

    If behests are shortend and leve timers greatly reduced like I proposed It still leaves several hours of content void just not 36 hour gaps.
    You're missing the point entirely. I've met more than a handful of people in game that recently started and just obtained their first r50 after 1.18, and are already getting their classes up and working on their 2nd 50s.

    Leves + Behest + Grinds + Quests. Do everything the game has to offer at their availability. While we had leve link parties, we also had surplus to slow us down - something that doesn't exist anymore. I'm not saying it's not more demanding to gain sp now than it was then, but lowering timers on leves to something as low as 3-4 hours and behests to every 15 minutes is not a solution.

    This game is gaining content and is essentially still developing. The solution is more content, which the devs are working on. Not making it so the current content is spammable.

    So I say again.

    No.
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    Tezz Xivectro
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    Coming from FF11, not everyone wants to grind. It's pathetically dull & boring in this game. Even in group PT.
    If monsters had chains & dropped chests or something then sure.

    Leves have been needing a faster reset since release. 16-20hrs & base the timer per class only.
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