Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[HeavensSword]

What would be needed for your pld data?

Maybe I could manage to upgrade my burtgang for 51 dmg and run a test either tonight or this weekend.

[ColdestHeaven]

Right now my group is about to clear the last turn. We are having issues with mechanics and stuff, and a couple of times because of the enrage at less than 5%. In both cases I can't but feel that despite being top DPS, overall DPS isn't enough - we are way too overgeared for this, so it's certainly my (our) fault. I can maximize damage in the first two phases because I'm in charge of staying on Bahamut while the others kill the adds, I pull my weight in phase 3 using the buffs on the first two adds and then on Twintania. Then in phase 4 I'll use every buff/potion again right before the first megaflare, but after that...everything it's blank. Is there any timing for buffs I should be aware of? Should I just wait for after every Earthshaker to pop blood for blood and/or some other skill? Or is there something else I should know, or any tips at all?

[Sleigh]

Right now my group is about to clear the last turn. We are having issues with mechanics and stuff, and a couple of times because of the enrage at less than 5%. In both cases I can't but feel that despite being top DPS, overall DPS isn't enough - we are way too overgeared for this, so it's certainly my (our) fault. I can maximize damage in the first two phases because I'm in charge of staying on Bahamut while the others kill the adds, I pull my weight in phase 3 using the buffs on the first two adds and then on Twintania. Then in phase 4 I'll use every buff/potion again right before the first megaflare, but after that...everything it's blank. Is there any timing for buffs I should be aware of? Should I just wait for after every Earthshaker to pop blood for blood and/or some other skill? Or is there something else I should know, or any tips at all?

Are you guys using Cover for Earthshakers in final phase? That can be a couple % right there, healers can compensate for autos after the Akhs you Holmgang. Also, does your group stack behind the boss or at some mid-spot for Megaflares in final phase? Also recommend making it behind the boss if you're not, gotta keep up the uptime.

DRG isn't too complex in T13, just play it dummy. If you're top DPS, though, it's time to examine what other people are doing rather than looking inward IMO, especially if it's MNK or NIN losing to you.

[ColdestHeaven]

Are you guys using Cover for Earthshakers in final phase? That can be a couple % right there, healers can compensate for autos after the Akhs you Holmgang. Also, does your group stack behind the boss or at some mid-spot for Megaflares in final phase? Also recommend making it behind the boss if you're not, gotta keep up the uptime.

DRG isn't too complex in T13, just play it dummy. If you're top DPS, though, it's time to examine what other people are doing rather than looking inward IMO, especially if it's MNK or NIN losing to you.

No cover for us DPS in last phase, I'm afraid. The PLD uses it on the WAR during one of the Akh Morn or something like that. We stack on B (which is normally the center of the arena) to share Megaflare. Stacking behind the boss (just like phase 1) would be neat, but we already got problems with tanks grabbing tethers as we are - standing even closer would just make it even worse. While I thought of suggesting those changes myself to help us melees, I am just not sure that it would work until I am confident that tanks won't screw up (and eventually blame it on us...).

As for examining what others are doing - yeah, MNK losing to me is more foreboding than anything else. But that's exactly the reason I stay on Bahamut in P2 rather than him: I deal more damage than him if I'm not bothered by mechanics, and at the end of the fight I'm ahead of the others in terms of overall damage dealt. And I know it's not because I'm that much good, either - and in terms of gear we are not far from each other - but this is the order of things in my group, with many more unpleasant details. The only thing I can do is try to understand what is the best I can do to the very least clear the fight, hoping the rest does enough.

Regarding the timing of using Blood for Blood at the last Phase, not sure how it's for you, but in my Group I can freely use it even when knowing Earthershaker is incoming, the only times I don't use it is during Megaflare or Gigaflare, basically when I know it'll come up anytime soon.

So even if there's the risk of Earthshaker choosing me I should pop Blood for Blood anyway? Won't it be wasted?

[jehuty08]

So even if there's the risk of Earthshaker choosing me I should pop Blood for Blood anyway? Won't it be wasted?

Every second Blood for Blood is off cooldown is technically wasting it. Other than divebombs, I keep Blood for Blood on cooldown whenever its available, I dont think earshakers have really ever clipped more than ~8 seconds of my blood for blood.

By not holding blood for blood, you might potentially waste a bit of the buff, but by holding it, you are for sure wasting the buff

[Arthuro-Ray]

I think it's okay for a Monk to be losing to a DRG there, Megaflare can mess with your positionals a lot(i can't imagine how annoying the fight would be on DRG before buff, lol), and DRG can do a lot of AoE damage during p3, whereas monk keep losing stacks.

But the gap shouldn't be too big.

[SunnyHirose]

i can't imagine how annoying the fight would be on DRG before buff, lol)

I was #4 DPS on my first clear X(

[Sleigh]

I was #4 DPS on my first clear X(

In my group it's the same now as it was then, DRG #4, but that might be because our BRD is on another level (he is #1 at 510 unmerged in a sub 11m clear time group).

DRG's actually #4 in our group for every turn but T11 in my experience, due to DRG having LB duties and our BRD being exceptional.

[Arthuro-Ray]

He isn't playing at an optimal level then.

[Dervy]

In my group it's the same now as it was then, DRG #4, but that might be because our BRD is on another level (he is #1 at 510 unmerged in a sub 11m clear time group).

DRG's actually #4 in our group for every turn but T11 in my experience, due to DRG having LB duties and our BRD being exceptional.

Wat. I'm on LB duty for all turns as well and I'm always so far ahead of the rest of my group lmao. Might all change in T13 though (which I just reached admittedly...)