Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[Kuroyasha]

Holy shit dat gil tho

I know right. I have a whopping 900k gil after my transfer .... :| ..... D:

[Sentinillia]

After spending 18 million gil on crafted gear, I've come to the conclusion I cannot hit a 9 GCD Blood for Blood at 395 skill speed and 2.45 GCD. On my test at 397 (2.44) I can make it however.

*sigh*
Guess I'm re-melding +2 skill speed on my Zeta.

[Dunncan]

After spending 18 million gil on crafted gear, I've come to the conclusion I cannot hit a 9 GCD Blood for Blood at 395 skill speed and 2.45 GCD. On my test at 397 (2.44) I can make it however.

*sigh*
Guess I'm re-melding +2 skill speed on my Zeta.

I'm playing arround 170ms with WTFast, it's "frustrating". I came to the point where I simply gave up on getting that 9th GCD. I cannot say for sure if the stats I need to sacrifice to achiev the 9GCD worth it.

[Dervy]

Even with a delayed blood for blood? If you have around 100-110ms with that SS and with a delayed bfb, then you're clipping your GDC somewhere in the opener after BFB application somewhere.

[Sentinillia]

Even with a delayed blood for blood? If you have around 100-110ms with that SS and with a delayed bfb, then you're clipping your GDC somewhere in the opener after BFB application somewhere.

I'm playing with around 135-140 ms with WTFast.
I tried even further delaying B4b to the point where it would clip into Chaos Thrust in the opener before using it but no dice. I can make it sometimes but it's not consistent.

[SunnyHirose]

I have pretty good ping and I still think it's not worth the headache. It requires too many things to be perfect in order to work, and I just don't got the gil for it anyhow.

[seekified]

Just looking at the rotation, shouldn't one really put BfB after Disembowel instead of ID as that'd let you do the second Full Thrust with it still up? I have craptonnes of skillspeed since I only recently started getting FCoB loot, so I can play around.

Also, something that's bugged me for a while - on the second rotation, you will have Life Surge up for the rotation's first TTT but not BfB. Do you pop LS without BfB or wait for TTT-HT-TT (at which point BfB becomes available) so you have both up at the same time?

[Sentinillia]

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If you are able to fit 9 GCDs within a single Blood for blood activation, your opener should look something like: HT -> IR + PS -> ID -> X-pot -> Dis -> Bfb -> CT -> Jump -> Phle -> LegS -> TT -> Dragonfire -> VT -> LS -> FT -> Spineshatter -> ...

Always pop Life Surge with the next Full Thrust after it comes off of cooldown, Bfb or not. With lower skill speed you can also alternate LS activations between Full Thrust and Chaos Thrust for a slight DPS increase.

[seekified]

If you are able to fit 9 GCDs within a single Blood for blood activation, your opener should look something like: HT -> IR + PS -> ID -> X-pot -> Dis -> Bfb -> CT -> Jump -> Phle -> LegS -> TT -> Dragonfire -> VT -> LS -> FT -> Spineshatter -> ...

Always pop Life Surge with the next Full Thrust after it comes off of cooldown, Bfb or not. With lower skill speed you can also alternate LS activations between Full Thrust and Chaos Thrust for a slight DPS increase.

I'm gonna try this out when I get home - if I swap out my Dreadwyrm choker for the Aug I'll have just over 400 skillspeed (not ideal, I know, but I'm only on T11 farm at the moment).

Aight, good to have that sorted out. I suppose keeping the cooldowns on cooldown at all times is best.

[Dervy]

I'm gonna try this out when I get home - if I swap out my Dreadwyrm choker for the Aug I'll have just over 400 skillspeed (not ideal, I know, but I'm only on T11 farm at the moment).

Aight, good to have that sorted out. I suppose keeping the cooldowns on cooldown at all times is best.

You've got 384 SkillSpeed already. Just delay your Blood for Blood timing.

This should explain it a bit more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfjU6hJC_II