Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[SpookyGhost]

In fighting games we typically call it "recovery". Not sure what we should call the lockout on skill spam here....

It's sort of the same here, but not entirely. In fighting games there are start-up, active, and recovery frames for an attack animation which go in sequential order for every attack. In XIV it's really strange since most moves have 0 recovery, they're 99% startup, and then 1% active where the damage is actually calculated. Some moves, like Jump/ST/Assassinate, are "locked" which basically just means that once you press the button you won't be able to move for the duration of the animation, so to compare it to fighting games: 99% of the animation is recovery, and then 1% is active (the recovery bit is just at the start as opposed to the end). So the best term for it would be "animation lock" since that's what it is.

[SunnyHirose]

In terms of sequence, we could say that recovery and start-up states both begin on skill activation. Recovery time on non-animation locking skills is short but substantial.

I feel the fighting game paradigm isn't completely analogous because game state in ARR is generally decoupled from the character animation. You can cancel the start-up animation for a GCD without canceling the skill, though it won't hasten the time the skill takes effect.

[siverstorm]

Yan im so sorry.

[Dervy]

Congratulations!

Oh also, I've gotten round to making a blog where I can continuously keep posting my theorycrafting updates, instead of clogging up these forums all the time, plus it'll serve as a nice archive for people to go to, kinda like what BLITZBALL did at launch. It's in my signature if anyones interested. I'll be trying to post there as frequently as I can. I've also got the latest weights there as well. It's still really bare and I'm working to fill it up as much as I can >_<

[enil]

Both done with Conq 51 Weapon Damage
Warrior Data.
Raw Dump http://pastebin.com/hVeVcMGK
Stats http://i.imgur.com/OZE4LVk.png

23 Crits - 315 min 345 max
151 Hits - 209 min 231 max

10 minutes worth of heavy swing - not sure if this is enough data.

Will do MRD shortly.

MRD
Raw Data http://pastebin.com/6PqsCd8E
Stats http://i.imgur.com/FsnYNLK.png

33 Crits - 310 min 343 max
166 Hits - 207 min 228 max

both were done with identical stats so no idea how to explain the discrepency

[Dervy]

10mins is enough. I approximately gauge where each class lines up in damage with the same stat-spread really.

Also, that 312 DET = joocy. Any chance you could get PLD done as well, along with MRD? I've encountered a rounding error with my last test of 51WD, 450 STR, 268 DET with the MRD/PLD. One test has the MRD dealing more damage than the PLD, where as my recent one has them dealing the same. I just wish I knew how this game rounds up numbers

[enil]

my PLD is sadly level 40 only - updated original post with MRD data.

[Dervy]

D'aw. That's fine Thanks a lot!

[enil]

updated original post with mrd data.

[Dervy]

That discrepancy is expected, don't worry