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    When BFB is down, the ideal dragoon rotation becomes HT->PB->CT combo due to a lack of buff snapshotting correct?

    3 GCDs of PB DoT ticks> 1 GCD of CT DoT ticks +10% initial hit on PB
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    Quote Originally Posted by Outfoxed View Post
    When BFB is down, the ideal dragoon rotation becomes HT->PB->CT combo due to a lack of buff snapshotting correct?

    3 GCDs of PB DoT ticks> 1 GCD of CT DoT ticks +10% initial hit on PB
    Don't forget one losing 10% off one GCD of autos, one GCD/auto from the BRD if you have one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by enil View Post
    Don't forget one losing 10% off one GCD of autos, one GCD/auto from the BRD if you have one.
    true, but likewise, if you have another DRG (aka you're in DF, CT, and/or PF) you don't lose damage because you can rely on other DRGs to apply Disembowel for you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Outfoxed View Post
    When BFB is down, the ideal dragoon rotation becomes HT->PB->CT combo due to a lack of buff snapshotting correct?
    No. If it's long enough to call it a "rotation", Phlebotomize > Chaos Thrust would be less than Chaos Thrust > Phlebotomize (the difference for you is less than 1%... but your bard hating you for not buffing their moment of spiky glory better is eternal). It comes about because Disembowel and Chaos Thrust will have a very brief clip and falloff. And from a "what's missing from the opener" perspective:

    Phlebotomize = 422.05 every 20 seconds = 21.1025 pps
    Chaos Thrust = 718.75 every 30 seconds = 23.9583333 pps (21.85 pps for missing rear bonus)

    CT wins just on the merits of being really, really strong and it not being (usually) practical to get full Phlebotomize uptime.

    For more short term considerations, the answer is messier.
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    I would rather them funnel some of that PIE into STR but DRGs have had MP and were associated with some abilities that dealt magic damage in other FF games:
    Dragon Sword in FFV was based on INT
    Cherry Blossom dealt non-elemental magic damage in FFIX
    Khimari's Lancet and his Breaths are magic based.
    Reis's dragoneer/dragonkin breaths are magic based.

    Seems odd that we would have MP given that we can't crossclass any spells and have none of our own, but rather than giving us another resource to upkeep, reduce our PIE by like 30 and put it in STR and VIT
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    i hope dervy dont get banned as i dont like using reddit
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    Unfortunately it appears Dervy's ban is permanent; https://dervyxiv.wordpress.com/2015/04/28/rekt-kekeke/

    Hopefully he can get it lifted, but you can keep up to date with his posts on his blog in the mean time, and the other links mentioned by someone else a few posts ago

    https://dervyxiv.wordpress.com/

    #freedervy
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    Damn, was really looking forward to his 3.0 thread on here. As he states on the blog, perhaps we need a new place to discuss certain things.

    #dervygate
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    ...seriously, are dragoon theorycrafters the only one getting banned around here? D: Who's gonna post the new thread when Heavensward hits?
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