Why Speed Pulls?

[chidarake]

On the contrary there is just as much people who would tank and pull the whole damned street, if only the other 3 members are competent enough. Times when I enter as tank, I look at how my DPS do their job and how the WHM just stood there AFKing instead of throwing a holy or two to make things more fun, I'd say screw it, I rather queue as BLM and blow things up.

this totally, when I tank which is daily.. I also see dps who cant do decent damage and healers just barely keeping me alive on a few trash pulls, no way I can speed run with those people. that's fine its df..

however if I go as blm I expect to kill a tonne of stuff at once and when its one pull at a time I will just afk the fights cus seriously I can kill 20 mobs in roughly the same time as killing a couple trash packs.. if there grouped up well...


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as for the whole pulling extra trash onto the tank and expecting the tank to gab it... that is not cool.. the tank pulled what they thought they or the group was capable off not what you think, and if the tank cant hold the hate then why pull more.>?


I use to not mind so much when people would do this on me cus I know I can handle it but now if that happens im gonna let that person die then pick up trash to stop them from maiming everyone else. even if that's the healer.... << this is in response to pulled on purpose not accidental pulls, its easy to tell the difference

WAR is a more complex job than PLD by virtue of its mitigation being in part active, and having an actual resource to think about (Wrath stacks).
PLD has no short-term planning to do. All of PLD's planning comes from when to pop their CDs.

Both jobs are strong. But PLD is more noob-friendly.

although I kinda agree with you here I don't think either tank role is really newb friendly at 50... before that your learning the ropes so who cares. post that you better know how to handle yourself and know the instances because otherwise dps and heals are going to be pulling from you constantly.

war's have to know there skills to be able to fully mitigate properly however even they have insta cd's that help out just as much as pld has them.

I don't play war much past getting it to 50 but I know I can pick it up and play it in dungeons and hold the hate ok but not as well as I can on pld since ive used that since day one. the biggest reason I know this is because I know the instances and skills on pld where as im not solid on skill knowledge and how they work on war but once there learned its no harder to play war

Speed pulls - preform your party.
Slow pulls - DF

End of discussion LOL

so not true, I speed run df all the time but based of my judgement of the group and how they handle the first pull. also if I run expert roulette I totally expect that dungeon to go as quickly as it can because its for experts << games wording not mine.