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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    There is poaching involved: the titan quests involves us poaching tortois eggs in gridania so some rich guy can eat it. There's chinchillas we kill for fur too. The list goes on. Then there the whole leather working job to consider to. The list goes on.

    I would be more concerned with how blatant casual sexual harassment is in this game
    Well then I also disagree with those problematic instances!

    You see, these things aren't mutually exclusive. I think that if there is casual sexism present that it should also be changed, or at the very least framed as wrong. But we aren't talking about that, this thread is about the shark fin soup item.

    These things are easy to fix. Change some flavor text and link to a separate item ID in a spreadsheet, and it's fixed!

    Edit: also just wanted to say that I'm not against the idea of killing monsters, etc. for pelts in the game. This is a fantasy setting, people in fantasy settings use leather. I am against shark fin soup because it is a real world dish that contributes to the extinction of endangered animals. Couerl pelts are fine, couerls don't exist, and they are not endangered in the real world. Chinchilla pelts bother me, because chinchillas are real animals (I should know, I own two of the little boogers myself!) who are bred for their fur. I just don't think that the game should be glorifying killing animals that are literally going extinct in the real world because we are killing them for such luxuries as a meal or a coat. It's a real issue, and I don't think it should be made light of in popular culture.

    As much as I value fiction and creative freedom, I do acknowledge that popular media helps to shape narrative. You and I may not come away from FFXIV thinking that shark fin soup is an okay and perfectly normal thing, but some people with less information might, and that's the problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    shnip
    Hi! I think my above post illustrates my issues with the item pretty clearly.

    As to your point about the poachers in Eorzea, well they're the bad guys, right? That's good!

    Shark Fin Soup as a positive: it is a meal that players can make and consume in the game, that's why it's framed as positive. It's framed as normal. Something the good guys consume regularly.

    Pugil Fin Soup: Pugils are FF monsters, they aren't real and are not tied to a destructive real world industry.


    My question to you is this: Why do you feel like Shark Fin Soup is fine for us to produce and consume in the game?
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    Last edited by Tsuga; 02-28-2015 at 02:33 AM.