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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Wolf View Post
    Hey trolls, I'm not interested in your over-generalizations about in-game violence, easily offended people, PETA, and whatever the hell tumblr is.

    The elven ear satire was cute but you forgot the part where you suffocate the elf infants to death. Sharks don't grow back their fins or live a slightly deformed life. They die. And I love the fact that you immediately took offense to someone teasing your reply while telling me not to get offended. LOL...

    I play the game. I eat meat (not cartilage). I like killing stuff in-game. But I don't like hidden political messages supporting a cruel practice. Hence the post.
    lol, hidden political messages.

    Dude, you are off your rocker. Sharkfin soup was in Everquest as well, I guess they too were putting it in as subliminal political messages? Oh I get it, it's cause the dev's are Japanese.... so obviously they love sharkfin soup and are obviously putting this in to brainwash players. Nice stereotype bro. Let alone that (at least my quick reading) it's prominently a Chinese dish.

    Coming onto a video game forum and then proclaiming to both the players and the devs that something should be removed due to issues totally outside of the game in general WILL get you ridiculed.
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    Last edited by Magis; 02-26-2015 at 05:07 AM.

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    So apparently because the GAME does not have a SPECIFIC recipe that would account for more than 1 use of the Megalodon, the game is making a political message.

    Right.
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    While I am personally against the practice of "finning" (unless the entire shark is used for food... seriously, the fins are not the only tasty part of sharks) and wish it were prohibited, I don't think that there is any political agenda of having shark fin soup in the game.

    Also: I can tell the difference between real life and a game. I know it's difficult for some people, but I am not one of them.
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    I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

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    I am wondering who the real troll is to be honest. You say you eat meat, well how do you think that is "processed" to get on your plate, I can tell you it aint pretty, think bolt through head, hung gutted sometimes when legs still kicking I could go into more gross detail, but to be honest we are omnivores, we are top of the food chain, we eat meat and in most cases we kill our food more humanely than most animal species on our planet that do much more cruel things to other animals. Think about your lovely purring cat that bites the head off a garden bird, doesn't eat it and deposits the head at your feet as an offering, a lion mouth biting into a gazels neck to try and kill it then eats what it wants when the animal is sometimes still alive i.e. being eaten alive...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Wolf View Post
    This is an outright lie.
    How do you know this is an outright lie? There are COUNTLESS things in the game that are obviously crafted, but that crafters aren't able to craft. Culinarians don't have a recipe for anything that uses shark slices, but that doesn't mean it's not a popular cuisine among NPCs.

    I'm aware of the cruelty of shark finning. I find it rather admirable that SE actually acknowledged this abuse in-game, by including this line of text to assure crafters that they are NOT abusive animal-torturers, unlike real-life shark harvesters, and that the whole shark is put to good use in Eorzea even if the same would not be true in real life.

    If SE was as callous as you say, they would have said nothing at all on the topic - or if they REALLY wanted to promote shark finning include some rhetoric that tries to justify the cruel practice. Instead, Eorzea is a beautiful place where nature is respected and when the shark is slaughtered for its fin, the rest of the carcass is put to good use as well. Quite fitting for a fantasy world.

    You may be correct in that there is a political message here - but I think you're vastly mistaken about the intent of that message. To me, the text seems like a scathing criticism of real-life finning, not an endorsement or an attempt to pull the wool over anyone's eyes.
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  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brickshouse View Post
    I am wondering who the real troll is to be honest. You say you eat meat, well how do you think that is "processed" to get on your plate, I can tell you it aint pretty, think bolt through head, hung gutted sometimes when legs still kicking I could go into more gross detail, but to be honest we are omnivores, we are top of the food chain, we eat meat and in most cases we kill our food more humanely than most animal species on our planet that do much more cruel things to other animals. Think about your lovely purring cat that bites the head off a garden bird, doesn't eat it and deposits the head at your feet as an offering, a lion mouth biting into a gazels neck to try and kill it then eats what it wants when the animal is sometimes still alive i.e. being eaten alive...
    Well, you can agree that finning is cruel. A lion will eat all of it's prey, and doesn't know any better; just acts on instinct. Bolt, prod, or bullet to the head is pretty damn humane compared to cutting a fin off a shark then throwing it into the sea to die slowly.

    Hoooowever, going onto a video game forum and trying to bring in IRL politics into the community or the game itself is obnoxious as hell. It's like someone saying that the Syndicate should be renamed "The Republican Party" because they both are heavily pro-capitalist and screw the poor (true or not, sorry to any Republicans, I just needed an example).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Failia View Post
    Truly a shame that tumblr can't seem to comprehend the concept of "satire".
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    dude you forgot to equip your fedora >.>
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    "Try not. Do or do not. There is no try."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinkoz View Post
    Truly a shame that tumblr can't seem to comprehend the concept of "satire".
    I think it's more a matter of Poe's Law. Folks on Tumblr are QUITE aware of the concept of satire. The problem is, it's not always easy to recognize what is written in satire, and what is written in earnest.

    If I recall correctly, there were a disturbing number of people who took "A Modest Proposal" at face value, and that was well before the advent of Tumbler. Or, you know, steam power. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayCommon View Post
    Nah it's fine. It's ok to joke about Elezen babies having their ears removed to feed kittens but if I say "shit" than it's crossing a line and destroying the "light-hearted" feel that is associated with cannibalism....


    I got it now thanks!!!









    this is all still a joke....
    It's noly cannabalism when it's the same race :P
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