The relic weapon quest is OBSCENELY boring...

[Laerune]

I have to agree, the first quest was oke to do, because it felt like you and the blacksmith were researching the history of the weapon. But the steps afterwards is one of the most boring and grindest tasks that I have ever seen in a mmorpg.

[Gilthas]

The relic quest was added to the game because people wanted something to grind. If you feel it's too boring then it's simply not something for you.

I'm far more annoyed about all the materia that was needed for Novus. That and that after so much work it's still weaker than the best weapons in the game.

[ShiloEET]

Its why I've only taken one to i100 and will never take one further. The other weapons you can get might not be bis but they aren't going to hinder performance.

Yeah i think that's how a lot of us feel. However it's going to be upgraded for 3.1 for free anyways. So i think its a matter of how you see it.

[Inuk9]

The relic has always had the goal of being time consuming investment and each step further expands on this. It's not for everyone nor is it intended for everyone and the sooner people accept that, the more they can enjoy the game (by moving on to something else). The relic is not mandatory for ANYTHING.
There's always other, easier options that provide you with that close to instant weapon gratification some people seem to desire. The relic will not and should not EVER satisfy that demand. And certainly not ever since they made you able to customize its secondary stats. I say this as someone that's done two relics now, one before all the nerfs and one after.

Stop being an elitist.

The point is. Is not fun to farm 9 books doing old content. You want a weapon only good players can have it? Fine but put challange stuff instead of boring stuff. How About to clear some coil raid 3 times instead doing old dungeons with 20+ minutes queue?

[RiceisNice]

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I don't think most of the people here want instant gratification, but rather the progressive steps be toned down so its relative to where it stands. Something like Atma is a pointless step with how long it can potentially take, versus what it gives (a reskinned weapon with the stats of a ilvl90), made even worse when it was the exact same RNG/potential timesink when nexus was the end step at the time.

[aisustrong]

I don't think most of the people here want instant gratification, but rather the progressive steps be toned down so its relative to where it stands. Something like Atma is a pointless step with how long it can potentially take, versus what it gives (a reskinned weapon with the stats of a ilvl90), made even worse when it was the exact same RNG/potential timesink when nexus was the end step at the time.

uh no
atma stats increase each time you finish a book

[Inuk9]

uh no
atma stats increase each time you finish a book

Yeah, you just need to kill 100 enemies (with, most of the time, only 3~4 spawns in the map), do 3 low lv dungeons, do 3 fates and 3 leves to get 2 vitality. Sounds exciting!

[Deathscythe343]

uh no
atma stats increase each time you finish a book

Yes, every time you complete the book a stat does increase. That however, was not Rice's point. It was that the entire step of gathering the atmas is pointless. When you do gather the atmas and turn them in, the weapon you are given is just a reskin of the weapon your turned in with its item level increased. That entire step could be removed and just have players do the book part.

[desufin]

Stop being an elitist.

The point is. Is not fun to farm 9 books doing old content. You want a weapon only good players can have it? Fine but put challange stuff instead of boring stuff. How About to clear some coil raid 3 times instead doing old dungeons with 20+ minutes queue?

There's nothing elitist about saying not everything is for everyone.If it's too much effort for you, move on to something else. RIGHT NOW relic isn't the best there is and once the new step comes out on tuesday people will complain about how it's too much of a grind yet again. Relic has already had several nerfs but sure I can agree that the content of the books could be revised because they are by far the worst step right now. But everything else? Fine as is, besides materia which are server/user dependent due to stat demands every step has been nerfed drastically and made easier.
First step? No one complains about DF hard mode primals anymore. Zenith? The mists cost pennies in soldiery which the game hands out like candy. Atma? Atmas drop really fast now, on average you can do all in a single evening instead of taking weeks to months. Animus books? The contents are still bad but the books are only 500 soldiery instead of 1500, and again the game hands it out like candy. Alexandrite for Novus? Drastically increased drop rate from FATE, halved cost from soldiery (400 from 800), Allied Seals? Gains were doubled last patch while alex price was left untouched (unlike say ventures which doubled in price). Light for Nexus? Light gains were DOUBLED.

People that still complain really do want instant gratification, with minor investment you can get full relic in about a month right now, that's way faster than it took most to even get animus before. The relic is there to take time and it always will, no amount of complaining or claiming "elitist!!" will change that.

I don't think most of the people here want instant gratification, but rather the progressive steps be toned down so its relative to where it stands. Something like Atma is a pointless step with how long it can potentially take, versus what it gives (a reskinned weapon with the stats of a ilvl90), made even worse when it was the exact same RNG/potential timesink when nexus was the end step at the time.

Atmas were already nerfed a ton. Yes it does suck that they do not give any actual boost to your relic upon gaining them but that was always true and people have complained about that since day one and it hasn't changed. And frankly because of how easy they are to get now I don't even mind it. The only step I could rightfully agree on that could use adjustment are the books. Halve the monster requried, update the dungeons so there at least are no more repeats. Maybe even cut down on the amount of books requires but in that case drastically increase the amount of soldiery needed for each one. But that's about it, it's a time sink and there for a reason.

[Spawnie]

really dont know why so many people whinge about relic quests eithier you do them or dont its pretty simple theres more then enough alternative weapons around for those who dont wanna take the time to do a relic weapon quest