The relic weapon quest is OBSCENELY boring...

[RichardButte]

That wouldn't solve anything, it would just turn relics into Ironworks/Dreadwyrm weapons.

It would do absolutely nothing of the sort, provided you only have to run 24 man raids.

MoP's legendary questline wound throughout the entire expansion, having a progressing storyline that was interesting, time-consuming and CHALLENGING, without resorting to making us go hang around level 20 areas for days at a time or run old, poorly-designed dungeons.

If Blizzard can make this work and not be utter shit, SE can do the same, right?

Some people enjoy the relic quest line. Not everything has to be liked by everybody.

I don't, and I'm making it known, and if you don't like threads like this, why do you keep bumping them?

[Gilthas]

It would do absolutely nothing of the sort, provided you only have to run 24 man raids.

MoP's legendary questline wound throughout the entire expansion, having a progressing storyline that was interesting, time-consuming and CHALLENGING, without resorting to making us go hang around level 20 areas for days at a time or run old, poorly-designed dungeons.

If Blizzard can make this work and not be utter shit, SE can do the same, right?

No, it would do exactly just that.

There are already two weapons that are obtained through the highest level raid (Ironworks and Dreadwyrm) and you want to put a third weapon there? There's a reason that relic weapons don't require Final Coil.

I will say this: the materia step should honestly be the least stressful step.

Spiritbonding is incredibly easy and you could very quickly get all the tier 1, 2, and 3 materia you need in a day. The tier 4's can always be added in later if you find you have more money and want to. But it won't make or a break a weapon.

That's the thing though. Farming Tier IV materias are a real pain, so I ended up caving in and buying most of them. Novus (the materia part, not farming the alexandrite) is by the far part I hated the most of the relic quest.

[RichardButte]

No, it would do exactly just that.

There are already two weapons that are obtained through the highest level raid (Ironworks and Dreadwyrm) and you want to put a third weapon there? There's a reason that relic weapons don't require Final Coil.

Did you even READ my post?

If the relic weapon required you to run 24 mans, there wouldn't be an issue. The three 24s are to XIV what LFR is to WoW: easily puggable, and no where near "the highest level raids" (referring to CHALLENGE, not ilevel, of course).

It would still be perfectly accessible content for casuals, but it would at least be things we were going to do ANYWAY instead of sending us to relive the boredom of being a goddamn level 20 with less than half of your relevant skills all over again...

[Gilthas]

Sorry I misread it.

But that's the point, SE wants players to do other stuff, not stuff that they would do anyway.

[Felis]

Did you even READ my post?

If the relic weapon required you to run 24 mans, there wouldn't be an issue. The three 24s are to XIV what LFR is to WoW: easily puggable, and no where near "the highest level raids" (referring to CHALLENGE, not ilevel, of course).

You have the option to farm the 2000 light points for Nexus with only doing CT, if you like it.

[Parodine]

That's the thing though. Farming Tier IV materias are a real pain, so I ended up caving in and buying most of them. Novus (the materia part, not farming the alexandrite) is by the far part I hated the most of the relic quest.

Why did you feel like you needed tier IV's at all, though? Because you don't unless you're a true min-maxer. And even if just filling it up without tier IVs, if you happen a long tier ivs more casually, you can always change the stats later on. That step is extremely flexible.

Making money isn't terribly hard for me, but even so, on my WHM one I had the ability to go for full Piety which thankfully was cheaper than anything else. But the Det IV's I bought and any that didn't make the fusion and broke I just put into crit. But even not buying any iv's at all, I don't think 7 determination would make a noticable cure difference practically.