There also seems to be another misconception in this thread.That "Elitist" (Lol Elitist on such a casual game) raiders are not worth investing in for SE. Which is false.

New subscribers don't join the game after watching someone sit around in Limsa or Mist or do Hunts for hours on hours. They see top tier content, they see players bang their head against it, and they say "This looks fun as hell" and they want to join. I talk to so many people who I guess you would call casual but they don't say. "Man I'm really looking towards heavensward so I can do hunts on Dark Knight instead of Warrior."

They want to do Alexander, they want to do progression, they want to beat XYZ content when its relevant. Whats a good way SE can make this happen? (Not by giving out stronger gear to carry you through fights). By increasing incentives in these fights.

When's the last time you've seen some Odin PFs? Whose farming that for its vanity gear?