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    I wouldn't mind this as I work full time now. I would love to see the story behind coil but people are making statics solely and understandably with people who can put long hours in. This however is difficult because my hours and days of when i work fluctuate so much that I cant be pinned to a MWF or Sat Sun group. I love this game, I just can't experience it as much as I would love to. This could help out greatly.

    I've even thought about watching cutscenes on youtube but I don't know if anyone's done that. >.>;
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirakumi View Post
    I wouldn't mind this as I work full time now. I would love to see the story behind coil but people are making statics solely and understandably with people who can put long hours in. This however is difficult because my hours and days of when i work fluctuate so much that I cant be pinned to a MWF or Sat Sun group. I love this game, I just can't experience it as much as I would love to. This could help out greatly.

    I've even thought about watching cutscenes on youtube but I don't know if anyone's done that. >.>;
    As I said, Coil does not need people to "put long hours in" unless you are trying to clear asap. I also pointed out that we work around peoples schedules, As an example: usually we can coil on tuesday, this week our first run was on the Thursday due to one member having to work. We wont raid till saturday now. Next week we probably wont be raiding much as one member is going to Amsterdam for a long weekend.

    We change pretty much everyweek depending on peoples RL schedules. I bet we aint the only Raid static that does that either. So yeah, long hours, fixed days yadda yadda dont always apply yet people still use them as an excuse of why they can't raid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    As I said, Coil does not need people to "put long hours in" unless you are trying to clear asap. I also pointed out that we work around peoples schedules, As an example: usually we can coil on tuesday, this week our first run was on the Thursday due to one member having to work. We wont raid till saturday now. Next week we probably wont be raiding much as one member is going to Amsterdam for a long weekend.
    Perhaps you are like that on your server. But on Hyperion there is a boarderline elitism where people won't put you in a static unless you meet the status quo. I have wanted to leave this server but I've played on it for so long, I just don't think it would do any good to swap and expect to be "welcomed aboard" when i have no history with that community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirakumi View Post
    Perhaps you are like that on your server. But on Hyperion there is a boarderline elitism where people won't put you in a static unless you meet the status quo. I have wanted to leave this server but I've played on it for so long, I just don't think it would do any good to swap and expect to be "welcomed aboard" when i have no history with that community.
    So, instead of trying to get into a pre-existing static which doesn't fit your schedule, start your own with your own requirements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melriss View Post
    Listen here you bully, I PAY for this game so I deserve to be part of EVERY aspect of it. I don't care if I need to invest time, gil or social interactions because I am not a no life nerd who plays for 420 hours every month! I am the HERO OF THIS STORY AND I DESERVE EVERYTHING so go back to wiping on your little raids for 7 hours a night. How DARE you look down on us you elitist raiding bully!! Make T9 soloable and make it drop ilvl 130 RIGHT NOW!!
    You want to know the sad part? I actually thought this was a real post at first. Poe's Law really in effect here.

    Quote Originally Posted by FranSeara View Post
    "Solo coil mode"

    This just doesn't EVEN!!!


    I just know someone here would just hate this idea. Having more modes to raids could/would open them up to more players like myself Who like to solo stuff or play at odd hours of the night/day. Having, more stuff never hurts. a solo coil mode could be like the Solo Ada Wong missions the RE series. It could get more players to try raids or coils in the furture. Solo mode wouldnt be solo the whole coil alone. Solo missions could be clear said floor to allow a raid team to move on to the next fight without being lockout or fored into a harder fight. I think the idea is Fun and would bring more spice to the boring endgame we have now. "Adding more FUN is not so bad".
    How is it... a... raid... if you are soloing it? Is this your first MMO or something?
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    How is it... a... raid... if you are soloing it? Is this your first MMO or something?[/QUOTE]

    Having more ways to enjoy something isnt a bad thing.....some people may just be short sighted. The best part of many games are the side missions and solo parts of the game(s) A solo mission mode coil could be harder then normal mode. Giving more players a reson to try coil might get them to join raid teams. As it stands now, there almost no reason to join any raid team. Its Called DF. This is just my idea. We already know we'll see more "modes" in the near future. Also, I know from the past its nearly impossible to get players to help with raids or ex primals on my server. It took me 3 hours to get a team for T5. I was helping out new members to my FC. The OLD coils may need a Solo/small team mode in the near future. Since "SOME" players never help out. Just saying....

    ps: Yes, this is my First and LAST MMO. Why, mainly because of the way many players think and act the like (the 3rd Riiii)
    I think WE have a generational problem here........peace out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FranSeara View Post
    How is it... a... raid... if you are soloing it? Is this your first MMO or something?

    Having more ways to enjoy something isnt a bad thing.....some people may just be short sighted. The best part of many games are the side missions and solo parts of the game(s) A solo mission mode coil could be harder then normal mode. Giving more players a reson to try coil might get them to join raid teams. As it stands now, there almost no reason to join any raid team. Its Called DF. This is just my idea. We already know we'll see more "modes" in the near future. Also, I know from the past its nearly impossible to get players to help with raids or ex primals on my server. It took me 3 hours to get a team for T5. I was helping out new members to my FC. The OLD coils may need a Solo/small team mode in the near future. Since "SOME" players never help out. Just saying....
    Ok, some nomenclature for you:

    A raid is a type of mission in a video game in which a number of people attempt to defeat a boss monster or consecutive series of bosses. The term raid itself stems from the military definition of a sudden attack and/or seizure of some objective.[1] This type of objective is most common in MMORPGs, and usually but not necessarily occurs within an Instance dungeon.
    -Wikipedia Article on Raids (Gaming)

    There is no such thing as a "solo raid". It's like saying a single multiplayer game. No one arguing with you said people should be barred from Coil, or that people shouldn't help out. On the contrary a lot of raiders help others because that means there is a bigger pool of players to raid with. However we don't want to see content nerfed (and is the main argument), otherwise you are going to have players who can barely do the basic mechanics, mechanics they should have learned IN THE PREVIOUS COIL. If you can beat T5, you can beat T6-T8, if you can beat T6-T8, you can beat T9. If you can beat T9 you can pretty much beat anything (or so I heard). All this with practice of course. If you don't want to practice, if you don't want to put the effort in, then welp raiding isn't for you. That is ok, there is tons of other content out there for you to enjoy.

    If your issue is about difficulty in joining a DF raid, then start or join a static. Heck, are you in a FC? Get a bunch of FC mates together and start raiding. This is how my static was created, it's just a bunch of FC members who wanted to raid and got together. What do you even mean by "As it stands now, there almost no reason to join any raid team. Its Called DF."? That's backwards logic since that is the primary way to complete coil! If this was the case, you wouldn't be complaining it takes 3h to start a Coil DF!

    Quote Originally Posted by FranSeara View Post
    ps: Yes, this is my First and LAST MMO. Why, mainly because of the way many players think and act the like (the 3rd Riiii)
    I think WE have a generational problem here........peace out.
    Generational problem indeed.
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    [QUOTE=Magis;2777569]Ok, some nomenclature for you:

    -Wikipedia Article on Raids (Gaming)

    Still missing the REAL point here. You'll never get it.
    My standing stament is :The old Raids/Coils MAY become unplayble due to lack of interst lack or willness by
    Vets to help out. Why not have a solo/small team mode?? That
    lets the player(s) EARN the RIGHT to view a recap of the EVENTS that relate to the now OLD/unneed/unwanted first and second coil. Nothing handed out nothing being taken away from you. If you cant
    understand this, then goodbye. I'll not talk on this anymore. Have a good life Magis.
    "Players like yourself DRIVE other Players AWAY and kill off games before their time."
    "Happy SE is Shutting down the Servers TODAY"
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    Quote Originally Posted by FranSeara View Post
    Still missing the REAL point here. You'll never get it.
    My standing stament is :The old Raids/Coils MAY become unplayble due to lack of interst lack or willness by
    Vets to help out. Why not have a solo/small team mode?? That
    lets the player(s) EARN the RIGHT to view a recap of the EVENTS that relate to the now OLD/unneed/unwanted first and second coil.
    There is always interest from someone somewhere and as I said, get like minded people together or ask help from your FC. They are already given the ability to earn the right. You act like they don't. Can someone on Ultros chime in on how the PF looks there, and how active T5/2nd Coil runs are? On Excalibur you still see people setting up runs for the old coils all the time.

    Quote Originally Posted by FranSeara View Post
    "Players like yourself DRIVE other Players AWAY and kill off games before their time."
    "Happy SE is Shutting down the Servers TODAY"
    Wut? So beyond the hilarious... quotes? You said this is your first MMO, what would you know of "kill off games before their time"? This argument has been going on since the dawn of MMOs and many have risen and many have fallen since then. I don't think that has much bearing on the success of MMOs. FFXI had tons of elitism yet it last years. WoW has... well it's WoW and we know how that game is. EVE has trolling/piracy/scammers and it's allowed and has 1m players. Also, I'm deeply saddened you would be happy that SE would shut down the servers, because someone didn't agree with you. That's a bit selfish, isn't it? Luckily that doesn't seem likely, especially with a new expansion coming around.

    So tell me, what defines a "player like myself"?

    Quote Originally Posted by FranSeara View Post
    I'll not talk on this anymore. Have a good life Magis.
    Or not, well toodles /wave!
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    [QUOTE=FranSeara;2777642]
    Quote Originally Posted by Magis View Post
    My standing stament is :The old Raids/Coils MAY become unplayble due to lack of interst lack or willness by
    Vets to help out. Why not have a solo/small team mode??
    Why should vets have to teach any random player that expects to be taught? When in many cases they do not want to be taught anyways yet expect "vets" to go back and carry them through content. How do you think vets learnt? How do you think they got to the point to be able to clear hardest content? By players teaching them? No, we didn't.

    Do you think vets should pay the same and then be expected to teach others? Very few will buy and pay subs for an MMO under the concept that they pay to be a teaching b*tch to anyone else. We pay and play for the same reasons, to play the game. There are NUMEROUS guides out there from players who are willing to teach yet lazy players will not use them, complaints about being asked to read a guide and/or watch a video made by someone who went that extra mileto create them. No, they prefer to go in blind under the expectations that everyone else in that party will write them a guide in party chat for their sole benefit.

    I'm willing to give advice, I'm willing to help, but heres the thing, they have to be willing to help themselves too. By utilizing the resources that are freely and easily available. See too many times someone new in hard content saying it's their first time, which is fine, but second thing they say is "What do I do?". I just facepalm. So they won't make a tiny effort to read a guide yet expect someone to type out a guide during the duty for them to read? Or they don't even say anything when it's their first time and cause wipes anyways.

    There's players who don't even read the toolltip description of their abilities amount of BRDs that refused to play foe requim because they believe "it lowers mu DPS". Whereas taking 10 seconds to read the tooltip would show that it doesn't!
    Or best yet, going in blind with English selected with zero understanding of the language.
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