Ironworks Fishing Rod

[liev]

If you believe 2-4 lucis fishing rods are easier than 2-4 ironworks, then well, what can i say.

Catching 33 easy fish for an extra Lucis is totally worse than catching an additional 104 harder fish (you already caught sovereign and olgoi) to get an Ironworks Rod to dupe in the first place.

Also, please do not decontextualise quotes, you (deliberatly or not) missed out the very pertinent point i made of if you kept up with the halcyon rod upgrade as soon as they were introduced, it required a lot of dedication to do. The point in my post, which you seem to have missed, is that it may seem easy now, but it wasnt when you were doing it as it was released.

I did Forager's Rod when it was released and I did my Supra in the same gear. Yes, it is easier now with the new gear. No, it was never harder than Ironworks. Silver Sovereigns, Olgoi-Khoirkhoi, and Gigant Clams are all VERY easy catches compared to many of the fish required for Ironworks. The entire process from Halcyon Rod to Halcyon Rod Lucis added together took me less than two weeks. Ironworks took a month of non-stop fishing.

Also, again, to get Ironworks you have to get Supra so you can't pretend that the first three stages (Halcyon Rod, Forager's, and Supra) only apply to getting the Lucis.

This point is spurious at best, the other gathring classes have thier OFFHAND which is purchasable, not the MAINHAND, which is what the fishing rod is. No main hand can be purchased with gil in the manner you are claiming.

The fisher upgrade is not the only one that has been replaced, the miner gets thier lucis as does the botanist.

Please please please link me the miner and botanist i80 tool that has been replaced with the lucis.

The entire point was that you can't claim that only fisher got a special upgrade, when Miner and Botanist got new offhand tools are the same time. Item level and slot is irrelevant. The upgrades were parallel.

The secondary points were that Miner and Botanist's special upgrades were comparatively much easier to get and yet they still get to use their special upgrades, while the special rod fisher got and actually had to work for is now useless.

Edit 2/06
The crossed out argument is a red herring and not relevant to the argument presented in the OP.

If you're concerned with fairness to Miner and Botanist, make a separate suggestion thread. The point of this post is that fisher had to work, and work hard to obtain the rod. It is my stance that the rod should at least have a unique appearance if its use was going to be limited to a single major patch.