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    Quote Originally Posted by liev View Post
    It's hardly a stand-out title. Without knowing that it's from fishing, most assume that it's to do with DoM classes.



    You can buy a Halcyon Rod & do an entire second & third Lucis for less effort than one Ironworks Fishing Rod. It's 86/119 big fish vs. 106 big fish (most of which require more gathering than the supra/lucis fish anyway).


    You have to do Halcyon Rod > Forager's > Supra > Ironworks Rod too.
    Even so, Halcyon Rod > Forager's > Supra > Lucis is still much much easier than Ironworks Rod.

    Halcyon Rod > Forager's > Supra > Lucis
    20 of one fish, 303 min gathering
    3 of one fish, 348 min gathering
    30 of one fish, 357 min gathering
    ...53 big fish total, 357 minimum gathering

    Ironworks Fishing Rod
    106 unique big fish, 393 minimum gathering
    Irrespective of not "being a stand out title" it is, non the less a very rare title. Also, people not knowing where it comes from is hardly that big a deal.

    If you believe 2-4 lucis fishing rods are easier than 2-4 ironworks, then well, what can i say. Dedicated fishers will naturally get the ironworks rod as well....

    Also, please do not decontextualise quotes, you (deliberatly or not) missed out the very pertinent point i made of if you kept up with the halcyon rod upgrade as soon as they were introduced, it required a lot of dedication to do. The point in my post, which you seem to have missed, is that it may seem easy now, but it wasnt when you were doing it as it was released.

    Quote Originally Posted by liev View Post
    I missed this point. Actually, the Ironworks Fishing Rod was added in the same update that gave Miner and Botanist the Forager's offhand tools, upgrades exclusive to those two classes.
    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...18d0d45bf52d59

    Note that
    1) Miner and Botanist upgrades can be purchased with gil. Only the fisher upgrade requires the player to actually work.
    2) Only the fisher upgrade has been replaced. The Miner and Botanist offhand tools are still best in slot.
    This point is spurious at best, the other gathring classes have thier OFFHAND which is purchasable, not the MAINHAND, which is what the fishing rod is. No main hand can be purchased with gil in the manner you are claiming.

    The fisher upgrade is not the only one that has been replaced, the miner gets thier lucis as does the botanist.

    Please please please link me the miner and botanist i80 tool that has been replaced with the lucis.

    Quote Originally Posted by Espritduo View Post
    Just so you know, you don't even get a title with the rod, as was mentioned. The title is gotten from the previous achievement, for catching 100 fish. The rod is the ultimate achievement after that for catching 106 fish.
    You know i stand corrected, you are absolutely right here, its the achievement before the ironworks rod that gets you the title . However the sentiment still stands that there is more to "showoff" with than just the ironworks rod if a fisher wishes to show thier dedication to whoever looks at them.

    Quote Originally Posted by BobbinT View Post
    ... and so is with luminary tools. It's just achievements. ^^;
    Shhhhh.....dont point this out .
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    Last edited by DarkmoonVael; 02-05-2015 at 01:18 AM.