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    Ehayte's Avatar
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    Warrior Lv 72
    Couple things:

    1 | You all are mostly arguing about nothing. If you are smart and see a dumb person that is arguing about something that just doesn't pertain to the subject at hand: ignore them.
    2 | You carry your BRD's DPS through DPS checks, just like your BRD carries you through 5 minute melee engagements and AE-Healing heavy portions of the fight. If you don't have to carry your BRD through a DPS check, then you are seeing 4 Bennus day 1, killing every mob on time in T13 the first time you see it, and never seeing an enrage. Its not about making the class OP, its about making the party OP.

    In addition, let's take a quick examination of what a BRD can do without interrupting their DPS much if any (certainly losing less DPS than ANY other job).

    T1 - Spawn and kite slimes
    T7 - Kite renaulds
    T8 - Tether/Brainjack
    T9 - Kite/Tank Golem
    T10 - Pick up add and Kite for PLD
    T11 - Spread for Seed of River
    T12 - Bluefire/Redfire
    T13 - Earthshakers

    WOW THAT'S A LOT OF GOOD STUFF WITHOUT LOSING MUCH DPS.
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    Last edited by Ehayte; 02-04-2015 at 12:57 AM.

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    Ardon Voltaire
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Ehayte View Post
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    T1 - Spawn and kite slimes -- Kite them and watch them explode and wipe the raid? Yea, thats not happening. YOu have to stay within a certain range or they explode.

    T7 - Kite renaulds ok

    T8 - Tether/Brainjack Tether sure, brainjack ... any class can do this without losing much dps

    T9 - Kite/Tank Golem 1. Kiting these golems is a horrible idea 2. ANY job can tank them without losing much dps.

    T10 - Pick up add and Kite for PLD So you have a bard pick up a daughter or son and kite it? wierd either way I'd argue that because of how fast they run, you still get hit, not to mention their frontal and back cones. Where are you getting this stuff from?

    T11 - Spread for Seed of River Any class can do this, its called rotating around the boss -- Yes even with 3 melee Flank/Rear/Flank

    T12 - Bluefire/Redfire -- At the cost of a pretty big damage debuff.

    T13 - Earthshakers -- ok
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    Last edited by SinisterIsBack; 02-04-2015 at 01:11 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SinisterIsBack View Post
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    T1 - Yeah you can kite them just stay less than 1 hexagon away, you can still get out of hitbox range if you have any skill whatsoever
    T8 - Tether/BJ are typically lumped together so that that person isn't also responsible for feeding a tower. BK wasn't really my point I was just naming the job for the fight.
    T9 - You have to move it to feed it...
    T10 - Can have the BRD pick one up while the others are getting finished so that you can DPS the MTs down first. Its something I've seen done but I will concede its not common. So... ok.
    T11 - Most groups don't spread into an octagon around the boss though? Most have healers/BRD back off while BLM/melee/melee spread?
    T12 - But their DPS is effected much less than any other classes moving to Bluefire and then to redfire, and if they can wait long enough they can minimize the dmg debuff better than any other class.

    Sure, arguably any job could do those things, but my point is that BRD's dps is effected the least. Its just another advantage that they have. Go have a NIN/BLM/DRG/MNK or even SMN do any of those jobs and tell me what the raid DPS loss is versus having a BRD do it.
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    Last edited by Ehayte; 02-04-2015 at 01:22 AM.