Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
The Cleric Stance nerf only nerfed the numbers, it didn't make it impossible for a healer to contribute damage/kills. Any healer walking out of Frontlines with 0 damage dealt is an utter failure, the moment any 8v8 situation turns in your favour it is very easy to start dealing damage and even picking off a few retreating damage dealers.

I'm well aware healers aren't dealing massive damage and getting kills in the double figures, but pretending healers can never get kills is absurd. Then there's the fact that this whole "issue" hinges on whether kills are counted as a group or not. If it's anything like the Drone/Node achievements people are crying over nothing.
I'd argue that a healer who thinks his aeros and stone IIs are worth casting over his sleeps and heavys is the poorer of the two. You're only getting kills if you're lucky enough to get the kill shot on a guy that was about to die anyway. You're not contributing to the team in any meaningful way by trying to do damage as a healer in frontlines now that cleric stance is gone. Of course it's not impossible to snag a kill every now and then. No one said otherwise. It's not impossible for me to do some healing as a pld with cure too. But in all but extremely rare situations I'm probably better off doing something else.

To say a healer in frontlines is "bad healer" and an "utter failure" for not actively dpsing just suggests you're not super good at frontlines, champ. I can't even find you on the frontline standings anywhere, even searching by just your server and GC and looking back months. You sure you know what you're talking about, killer? Lodestone and your posts suggest that you don't. I'm not crying foul about the new game mode or the fairness of the new achievements, I'm taking issue with your stance about healers in frontlines. Like their job there isn't crap enough without little potatoes saying they're bad for not busting out the deepz.