PLD Novus: Parry or DET?

[Fyce]

You have all the tools to deal good damage

Not every player has these "tools", no.

By "tools", I mean "10-15 million gils to spend into 11 points of Det which won't make a difference in practice for almost every PLD in the game".

The cost of the weapon and the overall usefulness of the stats are something to take in consideration when planning a Novus. Going full on "theory craft mode" is silly.

[Lavieh]

Not every player has these "tools", no.

By "tools", I mean "10-15 million gils to spend into 11 points of Det which won't make a difference in practice for almost every PLD in the game".

The cost of the weapon and the overall usefulness of the stats are something to take in consideration when planning a Novus. Going full on "theory craft mode" is silly.

It does not take "10-15 million gil" to deal good damage. 11 Det has a very small role in your total DPS output.

Yes the tools are easily available.

[stoxastic]

Not every player has these "tools", no.

By "tools", I mean "10-15 million gils to spend into 11 points of Det which won't make a difference in practice for almost every PLD in the game".

The cost of the weapon and the overall usefulness of the stats are something to take in consideration when planning a Novus. Going full on "theory craft mode" is silly.

Cost of a weapon is definitely a concern in a real life scenario. However, melding DET until you hit tier IV materia and filling the rest out with Crit is still better than Parry.

[Fyce]

It does not take "10-15 million gil" to deal good damage. 11 Det has a very small role in your total DPS output.

Yes the tools are easily available.

You said:

[...]your job should be staying alive, tanking the boss and putting out as much damage as possible.

You were not just talking about "doing good damage". You said "as much damage as possible".
To do that, you would need to max Det.
If you were to do this, right now, on Cerberus, melding only your Det IV would cost you around 10M.

So, I don't agree with that at all.

But I do agree with your last post regarding simply dealing "good damage" and the fact that 11 points of Det is too tiny to make a big difference on a PLD total DPS.


You probably didn't wanted to use "as much damage as possible" quite literally.

Cost of a weapon is definitely a concern in a real life scenario. However, melding DET until you hit tier IV materia and filling the rest out with Crit is still better than Parry.

That wasn't my point.
I just said that spending millions on Det IV to get 11 points of Det isn't something everyone can afford, and won't have a big impact on your DPS anyway.

[Lavieh]

You said:You were not just talking about "doing good damage". You said "as much damage as possible".

If they can't afford the 11 DET then wouldn't that be out of their range of possibilities?

[Fyce]

If they can't afford the 11 DET then wouldn't that be out of their range of possibilities?

When you say "your job is to do as much damage as possible", one can obviously understand that as "maximise your damage output to do your job properly". Hence "max Det".

[SirTaint]

When you say "your job is to do as much damage as possible", one can obviously understand that as "maximise your damage output to do your job properly". Hence "max Det".

He's correct. You should max DET. Whether you care to take the time to do it is up to the player. But you should if you have the means. Spirit bond a set of i70 a day and you Kk have enough det IVs in a couple weeks with another 10 mil from selling other materia.

[ZDamned]

You should also go beat T13, and get the i135 Sword if you want to be that stupidly to the point on what he said.

Seriously, use some reason... Were all just saying Parry is worthless in here, and that Paladins should be doing more than just being a walking "HIT ME" bag.

[Izsha]

Money is not the crux if the issue. Acc, crit, det, and never touch tier iv is what you do if money's a problem. Not do parry. That's the point. Parry should never really be on the table and being broke doesn't change that.

Parry:
*has very little defensive effect. 11 points roughly 1% increased chance to block 25ish% damage. That means 11 parry is about 0.25% damage reduction. 110 frigging parry is about 2.5% damage reduction. Oh and did I mention it does zero for magic? And zero of the m9nsters isn't hitting you? 110 crit is about a 5% increase in dps and ALWAYS works. Oh did I mention that putting on a shield waters down that 0.25% even more (depending on block rate). Parry is bad on war. It's HORRENDOUS on pld because shields are litterally stealing parries value.

Parry is really, really, terrible. If you can't afford tier 4 then don't waste what little gil you do have on a terrible stat.

[Dhex]

DET

*partyhat*