Stoneskin II

[Wildsprite]

Eos has increased healing so it's Divine Seal, a HoT so basically the Medica II regen without the healing part of Medica II itself

If you have her in Sic mode and you time it right she will use that HoT whenver you use Succor so it can be pretty effective

I don't think SCH needs SSII but it would be nice to have a version of our own, if they gave us something similar to Succor that lasted as long as stoneskin without the heal I would be good with that. but again not needed.

in a proper 8 man setup WHM and SCH compliment eachother. sadly I more often end up with a second SCH in the same party in LoA or ST. and more often than not the other SCH is lazy and doesn't actually know the job(often forgetting about his/her fairy) so I'm having to heal for us both. it is an easy job really but you should know it's abilities and shortcomings if you are going to play it.

personally I love both jobs. but I often have to tell people not to treat SCH like a WHM cause they go in spamming Physic and nothing else or they have Cure crossclassed......or even worse they forget their fairy....

[Reimia]

I'd happily share SS2 with Scholars..There might be a time in the future I dust off my own, and I'd hate to have to single cast SS after getting used to being lazy with it :/

[Roris]

If you have her in Sic mode and you time it right she will use that HoT whenver you use Succor so it can be pretty effective

I guess you can do that and make a makeshift Medica 2, personally I like everything being on manual so I can do Rouse + Fey Illumination + Whispering Dawn in that order at will and also throw in Covenant.

If you count SS and SSII as different actions, why do you not count "whispering dawn" and "embrace (eos)" as separate actions both available to an SCH?

You have to be aware it's handled that way because of how SCH was tacked on to Arcanist, so they had to move a lot of those utility abilities onto their fairies or else they'd fall short on the healing side, since Arcanist only has 2 healing abilities and one is pet only, I guess 3 if you consider the very minor self healing from Energy Drain.

[Wildsprite]

I guess you can do that and make a makeshift Medica 2, personally I like everything being on manual so I can do Rouse + Fey Illumination + Whispering Dawn in that order at will and also throw in Covenant.

I was just saying in a pinch that sometimes you can have Eos act on her own and still be effective even though some people think otherwise

[Sapphic]

If you have her in Sic mode and you time it right she will use that HoT whenver you use Succor so it can be pretty effective

If you have any pets (SCH or SMN) in Sic, then you are not as good a SCH/SMN as you think. AI pets use abilities extremely sub optimal.

All I've got from reading replies is that, for some, that SS2 isn't needed for SCH, yet the same argument can be reversed to say WHM never needed it anyways. If WHM never needed it then there is no problems giving it to SCH as a cross class. It is a convenience ability that benefits everyone when SS is needed pre-pull.

[Remilia_Nightfall]

If you have any pets (SCH or SMN) in Sic, then you are not as good a SCH/SMN as you think. AI pets use abilities extremely sub optimal.

Not necessarily. Selene times her buffs quite well even on Sic.

Anyway Sulwyn, you might as well give up. These people are not even reading.

[Sapphic]

Not necessarily. Selene times her buffs quite well even on Sic.

Not even close compared to having full control of when pets do or don't use their abilities. Putting on Sic is just lazy and more often than not wasteing potential of the buffs/abilities.

Using macros tieing Embrace+Physik and Embrace+Adlo helps you to guarantee a decent combined heal on one target. 2300-2500 non crits compared to 1300-1500. With 2 chances one heal crits for a bigger heal. Very useful to quickly top up low HP players. Or around 2kish heal+shield with Adlo, tie in using Fey illu+rouse and you can easily fill up a low HP tank.

[Remilia_Nightfall]

Not even close compared to having full control of when pets do or don't use their abilities. Putting on Sic is just lazy and more often than not wasteing potential of the buffs/abilities.

Using macros tieing Embrace+Physik and Embrace+Adlo helps you to guarantee a decent combined heal on one target. 2300-2500 non crits compared to 1300-1500. With 2 chances one heal crits for a bigger heal. Very useful to quickly top up low HP players. Or around 2kish heal+shield with Adlo, tie in using Fey illu+rouse and you can easily fill up a low HP tank.

I have stopped using Eos anyway ages ago, I've been using Selene since then - including on T12. She does a good job alternating perfectly Fey Light and Fey Glow, with Embrace as spot heal for the party. I feel no need to macro Embrace to Physick and Adlo, to be honest. I did, some time ago - but ended up finding it more of a hindrance, as many times it just overheals the target.

[Sapphic]

I have stopped using Eos anyway ages ago, I've been using Selene since then - including on T12. She does a good job alternating perfectly Fey Light and Fey Glow, with Embrace as spot heal for the party. I feel no need to macro Embrace to Physick and Adlo, to be honest. I did, some time ago - but ended up finding it more of a hindrance, as many times it just overheals the target.

Why you have normal physik and Adlo, plus sepearate hotkeys for the macros albeit they are more useful when solo healing as a SCH Also Fey Cov doesnt hurt for phase 3 and flames of rebirth on last couple of Bennys when stacks are getting high, plus Fey illu to help the WHMs AE healing plus succor of course then back to Selene for last phase.

But, it's probably differences in style, not effectiveness XD