Stoneskin II

[Altijacek]

I play every class at 50 and have a very full understanding of how WHM works. There is no point in adding this ability except to speed up pre engagement times, which is counter intuitive to what a battle class is supposed to be. Might as well just remove it.

You say it makes no sense but we are talking about a healer here, and this is a protective spell. It makes sense that they won't be able to channel its energy in the heat of battle due to how powerful it is; haven't you seen movies like LoTR and other fantasy books/movies? The wizards and sorcerers who use healing magic participate in battle but they heal outside the battle too.

[KrissKringle]

You say it makes no sense but we are talking about a healer here, and this is a protective spell. It makes sense that they won't be able to channel its energy in the heat of battle due to how powerful it is; haven't you seen movies like LoTR and other fantasy books/movies? The wizards and sorcerers who use healing magic participate in battle but they heal outside the battle too.

It is the only ability/spell in the game that cannot be used by its main job/class in battle. That is a design flaw.

[Keisatsu]

So for ages, people complain about how boring and slow most content is and we had many of a WHM complain how painful it is to always cast Stoneskin individually, especially after each wipe. Now that we get a spell that makes the slow crawl less painful, people want that comfort removed because....why?

Did no one watch the fan fest and saw how Yoshida reacted towards the tediousness of casting Stoneskin player by player?

-Holds air controller- Next..Next..Next..Next..

[Keisatsu]

It is the only ability/spell in the game that cannot be used by its main job/class in battle. That is a design flaw.

Because it was never intended for that..at all..maybe in expansion they'll put a trait for this but again..for now..it was NEVER intended for that at all..they've stated this, it's no design flaw..

EDIT: You forgot Swiftsong.

[KrissKringle]

Because it was never intended for that..at all..maybe in expansion they'll put a trait for this but again..for now..it was NEVER intended for that at all..they've stated this, it's no design flaw..

Again, that is why it is a design flaw. It's intent is counter-intuitive to what a battle class is supposed to be. It does not make sense to the Armoury system or lore.

[Altijacek]

It is the only ability/spell in the game that cannot be used by its main job/class in battle. That is a design flaw.

Swift song cannot be used in battle...NOW that is a design flaw. Granted, it should nerf bard DPS if used in battle to not be overpowered. But this is not a flaw, and if you believe it is, you're trolling. If you really really want them to "not have it at all" as you said, you're gonna suffer through monotonous prebuff sections before the fight. Why anyone would want that is a mystery, I don't care if it saves ten seconds only...it makes things feel more fluid and less boring and that's the bottom line.

[Merylx]

Again, that is why it is a design flaw. It's intent is counter-intuitive to what a battle class is supposed to be. It does not make sense to the Armoury system or lore.

It isn't a design flaw. The developers themselves have stated it's working as intended. Deal with it.

[KrissKringle]

Swift song cannot be used in battle...NOW that is a design flaw. Granted, it should nerf bard DPS if used in battle to not be overpowered. But this is not a flaw, and if you believe it is, you're trolling. If you really really want them to "not have it at all" as you said, you're gonna suffer through monotonous prebuff sections before the fight. Why anyone would want that is a mystery, I don't care if it saves ten seconds only...it makes things feel more fluid and less boring and that's the bottom line.

There is no advantage to having swiftsong in battle. There is an advantage to having stoneskin in battle. Swiftsong was designed to be used outside of battle only, not for pre-engagements like stoneskin 2. And considering they already gave us an aoe version of stoneskin in the past it just doesn't make sense that they would bring it bake the way they did. It's a slap in the face to people who play whm.

[KaedrianLiang]

Someone help me out here, there was an ability in XI that allowed a buff that was singular to be cast on an entire party......forgot the name.

we had that in XIV 1.0. was called Sacred Prism. Was crazy awesome and sexy.

[KrissKringle]

It isn't a design flaw. The developers themselves have stated it's working as intended. Deal with it.

I don't think you understand what a design flaw is.