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    Krystyn Eclipse
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    Stoneskin II

    The current set of patch notes says the SS2 is only usable outside of battle. I find this to be problematic because it is essentially a useless spell while in combat because it cannot be cast. All other abilities for battle jobs are able to be used in battle to some extent, so the foundation of this spell makes no logical sense to have. It is evident in the design that this spell was not meant to be used over and over in battle, hence not being able to use in battle. However the fact that it can only be used outside of battle is a design flaw and is counter-intuitive to what a battle class/job is supposed to be.

    In order to eliminate this problem, but to also adhere to the idea the it should not be overused in battle I would suggest that the spell be given a long recast timer or to add an ability that would make any spell an AOE spell, as was used in 1.0. I would welcome any type of work-around for this spell in order to incorporate the use of it during battle.
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    The reason they are adding it is to speed up the pulling process, nothing more.
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    Lucille Wallace
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaralnKornera View Post
    The reason they are adding it is to speed up the pulling process, nothing more.
    We still gotta wait for skills/pot cooldowns. A good QoL thing would be to reset the cds after a wipe in raid content...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrus-Wallace View Post
    We still gotta wait for skills/pot cooldowns. A good QoL thing would be to reset the cds after a wipe in raid content...
    God yes, this, a thousand times. I have plenty of time to cast Stoneskin on everybody while waiting for the DPS to get their damn CDs back after every wipe while working on coil progression.
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    Kaedrian Kaeng
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    SINGLE TARGET STONESKIN:
    3sec (Cast time) X 8 (players in a full party) X 9001 (wipes) = 60 hours of casting stoneskin on the whole party.

    STONESKIN II:
    7 hours 30min.

    EDIT: Also stoneskin should only be cast during battle to prevent death. (drgs and their ridiculously low magic defensse) Not to mitigate 18% health in raid damage. Doing the latter is a good way to go to MP 0.
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    Last edited by KaedrianLiang; 12-09-2014 at 04:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaralnKornera View Post
    The reason they are adding it is to speed up the pulling process, nothing more.
    You deserve more likes.
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    Alyssa Edwards
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    Stoneskin II is evidently a quality-of-life adjustment. Being able to AoE Stoneskin in battle would make so many battle mechanics moot. I think it'd be a terrible idea.
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    The whole point of this spell is just so people dont have to cast stoneskin 8 times after a wipe. Because those time that you spent recasting will add up.
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    Someone help me out here, there was an ability in XI that allowed a buff that was singular to be cast on an entire party......forgot the name.
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    Apparently, I opened a portal to hell in Eorzea....Sargatanas, Shirogane W24 P36.

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