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  1. #131
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    SpookyGhost's Avatar
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    Kori Fleming
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xensai View Post
    We don't WANT it for just us We want more experienced players in the game nerfing content like this just allows people to skate by.
    I know this argument is going to be brought up a lot, so I'd just like to point out that T9 is untouched. T9, even with echo, will in no way be faceroll and if you can make it through T9 you'll be fine in T10, then T11, etc. etc. The main problem is that there is a decrease in difficulty going from T5 to T6, and that remains relatively steady until you reach T9 where the difficulty spikes up majorly. This is the same problem nerfed T1-4 had, it did not prepare people for T5. Nerfed T6-8 will also not prepare people for unnerfed T9.

    So, there's still a brick wall in place for FCoB, as there was with SCoB. If you're worried about people getting carried through, that was a thing way before Echo.
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  2. #132
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    How, exactly, is it "elitist" to believe other players are able to clear these turns without nerfs?
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  3. #133
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    Rieze Crestfall
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramesses View Post
    So yeah Elitists... quit yammering and whining just because more players now have a chance at getting that High Allagan loot you've been soooooooo proud of obtanining... (if that loot is what defines you in the game then you've missed the point completely). At the end of the day, SE needs to constantly expand player numbers and show a bank balance thats in the black... get with the program.
    Well said. We all want challenges hence Fcob + We all want this game to last long hence change outdated content for casuals = longer game lifespan
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  4. #134
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    Quote Originally Posted by RinKaen View Post
    Nobody even does savage coil. I'm no try hard especially not for achievements. I like the original mechanics, now doing scob is either not worth it or not worth it.
    If only we are in the same server I would want to dpo savage too but yeah no body is doing it sadly, maybe now more will play it idk.
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  5. #135
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    Adam Fylrmyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gralna View Post
    So I'll just be laughing all the way to T9
    The adjustments alone look like they changed a lot, but the fact is, the changes are pretty minimal at best. You won't be laughing your way to T9, sadly, because you're going to still bash your heads on T8 which requires a crap ton of team coordination, especially with the enrage timer, Dreadnaughts, Defensive Maneuvers, Ballistic Missile, Allagan Field, Brainjack, and Homing Missile not being adjusted in the slightest. T6 still has the Vines, Briars, Blighted Bouquet (Still may cause massive damage), Devour, Rafflesia's damage stacks, Honeys, Slugs, and Rotten Stench going for it , so there's that. T7 obviously still has their add phases to boot which is pretty taxing on the healers, Fireballs from Melusine, Renauds being linked to one person if they hit it by accident, Venomous Tail, Voice and Shriek, and the enrage timer which can be easily reached if people keep getting petrified.
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  6. #136
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    I'm cool with this. It'll make it easier for me to farm the gear I want from T7 and T8 without having to have my static online or getting really lucky in PF/with friends. I will admit that I'm very happy I cleared T6-T8 before the nerfs, but I'm alright with the fact that the content was made easier. It was bound to happen at some point and anyone that believed to the contrary hasn't paid much attention to the update history for BCoB.

    T9 is going to be the same massive roadblock that T5 STILL is for some people, and I welcome that challenge. ^^
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  7. #137
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rieze_Xeero View Post
    If only we are in the same server I would want to to savage too but yeah no body is doing it sadly, maybe now more will play it idk.
    If half these people arguing they want difficult content actually are interested in difficult content, they'll be moving onto doing Savage instead.

    That said, I'm sitting at fine with these nerfs because my goal isn't so much clearing Second Coil as it is clearing Savage Coil. Hell as it's going to be to find people interested.
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  8. #138
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamFyi View Post
    You won't be laughing your way to T9, sadly, because you're going to still bash your heads on T8 which requires a crap ton of team coordination
    I don't disagree, T8 will still be challenging and it's probably the least touched turn in terms of difficulty, but just 2 things I wanted to point:

    especially with the enrage timer
    Echo.

    Dreadnaughts
    Echo.
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  9. #139
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    Ramesses's Avatar
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    Prince Nuada
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    Diabolos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rieze_Xeero View Post
    Well said. We all want challenges hence Fcob + We all want this game to last long hence change outdated content for casuals = longer game lifespan
    Indeed, indeed... the whiners just whinge because they're so immersed in themselves that they have no understanding of the much bigger picture.
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  10. #140
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garlyle View Post
    If half these people arguing they want difficult content actually are interested in difficult content, they'll be moving onto doing Savage instead.

    That said, I'm sitting at fine with these nerfs because my goal isn't so much clearing Second Coil as it is clearing Savage Coil. Hell as it's going to be to find people interested.
    I agree with you dude. As long as I know that my subs is well spent I'm happy and as long as others are happy with the game... that is pretty fine with me. I love final fantasy and I want this game to last long
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