So Second Coil has been destroyed

[Garlyle]

If players can't clear SCoB they won't clear FCoB anyways, why move players into content they have no business being in?

I'm pretty sure this is why Turn 9 was not nerfed, actually, beside the slight echo bonus. Which is actually something I'm fine with. That's the one that actually locks Final Coil progression, and it's still going to be hell. There's also Savage Coil still, which yeah, I'm really glad has been completely untouched because I can still get the Crazy Batshit Version of the fights if I want. (Which I do)

Either way it remains to be seen exactly how deadly these mechanics remain (10 seconds of the entire party stunned due to Cursed Shriek, while not an instant wipe anymore, is still probably going to hurt like a bitch, and I fully expect that while Blighted Boquet won't one-shot you, it might still do so if you're not sitting at max HP or really close to it.)

[Damane]

If players can't clear SCoB they won't clear FCoB anyways, why move players into content they have no business being in? If someone can't clear Titan Hard Mode would you throw them into Titan EX? These changes just kick the can down the road and ensure more content will be nerfed because the players who will clear due to changes like this aren't able to clear the previous (easier, even before nerf) content anyways - so what chance will they have in even harder content?

The logic here fails to some degree, obviously those people wont clear the newest hard content. The Nerf is in place so those people can do it. Its basicly like makeing the content accessable for them. Just think of it like them being 6 months behind. The same will happen with FCoB in 8-10 months too. This is something every MMO does with olde content, ease it up so casual players can get a taste too. its like new content for casuals

[Phafi]

but guise, there's still this giant roadblock called Twintania

[Krr]

The fights before T9 weren't relevant for anything but loot that's now basically outdated by the slow weekly churn of Poetics, and T9 wasn't touched.

Also, I don't see anything indicating the mechanics can be 'ignored', only that their punishment damage has been reduced from 'instant death' to what is likely 'severe'. You probably won't be able to recover from 90% of a group just 'ignoring' blighted; your party is still dead as a doornail if half of them get blasted with Voice, etc, etc.

If you want serious, premade-required challenge, the only entry requirement to T9 is beating T5 and having a high enough ilvl. Go do that and unlock FCOB. If you want the "classic" SCOB taste, Savage still exists and gives the same loot.

The utter butchering of T7 doesn't surprise me at all, though. I've met members of T9-cleared static groups having a blast in FCOB who swear never to go back to that fight.

[Taika]

Also, I don't see anything indicating the mechanics can be 'ignored', only that their punishment damage has been reduced from 'instant death' to what is likely 'severe'.

At least you don't need to worry about getting rid of honeys in T6 now as they won't lead to bees spawning in last phase.

I feel sorry for one of our Coil teams that got T8 to 5% last night and is going to clear it on Thursday. They have been working on it for a long time now and were so close to beating it, and now they'll have to settle for the nerfed version. At least the only nerf in T9 is the echo.

Edit: Ironically, I'm also not sure if all the group members will be able to enter these last turns now in their current gear.

[Alaric1025]

but guise, there's still this giant roadblock called Twintania

Yes, thank you! and i still haven't been able to find the right group to clear Twintania. T_T

[Ashkendor]

Yes, thank you! and i still haven't been able to find the right group to clear Twintania. T_T

Ugh too bad you aren't on Sarg, I'd be happy to help if you were. :|

[Rufalus]

If you just want a challenge, you have savage mode, and the latest raids (final coil). Second Coil could be nerfed to the ground, but you always have that have savage difficulty mode if you find fun in a challenge.

But if you concern is that a greater amount of people with less time or skill get to experience old content you've already beaten... Well it's a receipe to destroy the game if you keep wanting content be exclusive to just an elite minority and keep it that way forever.

[SirSaber]

I do not understand why most of you are complaining about nerfs.
Let other people catch up and don't be so damn egoistic.

You have 2nd Coil savage mode for your loots and challange so why even care about normal 2nd Coil?

I don't get it why some here are allways nagging about content being made easier.

[D-Gold]

I do not understand why most of you are complaining about nerfs.
Let other people catch up and don't be so damn egoistic.

You have 2nd Coil savage mode for your loots and challange so why even care about normal 2nd Coil?

I don't get it why some here are allways nagging about content being made easier.

Personally I want to go through the same hardships of wiping and learning that others had to go through in order to progress. While I don't mind echo because I can turn that off I feel like I get cheated out of an experience with nerfs like this.