So Second Coil has been destroyed

[SpookyGhost]

We don't WANT it for just us We want more experienced players in the game nerfing content like this just allows people to skate by.

I know this argument is going to be brought up a lot, so I'd just like to point out that T9 is untouched. T9, even with echo, will in no way be faceroll and if you can make it through T9 you'll be fine in T10, then T11, etc. etc. The main problem is that there is a decrease in difficulty going from T5 to T6, and that remains relatively steady until you reach T9 where the difficulty spikes up majorly. This is the same problem nerfed T1-4 had, it did not prepare people for T5. Nerfed T6-8 will also not prepare people for unnerfed T9.

So, there's still a brick wall in place for FCoB, as there was with SCoB. If you're worried about people getting carried through, that was a thing way before Echo.

[Mitracia]

I know this argument is going to be brought up a lot, so I'd just like to point out that T9 is untouched. T9, even with echo, will in no way be faceroll and if you can make it through T9 you'll be fine in T10, then T11, etc. etc. The main problem is that there is a decrease in difficulty going from T5 to T6, and that remains relatively steady until you reach T9 where the difficulty spikes up majorly. This is the same problem nerfed T1-4 had, it did not prepare people for T5. Nerfed T6-8 will also not prepare people for unnerfed T9.

Many people seem to forget that point. Yes, turn 6-8 have been nerfed, but turn 9 will still be a wall to many people, and for good preparations against the final coil.

Instead, people jump the drama boat to early. We still have lots of people who haven't cleared turn 5, and it is still challenging because of its one shot mechanics.