So Second Coil has been destroyed

[Osmond]

If ppl already beaten 2nd coil why complain that the mechanics you like isn't there? Why do ppl do that?

[Mutemutt]

If ppl already beaten 2nd coil why complain that the mechanics you like isn't there? Why do ppl do that?

You kinda answered the question already. I'm just sad because I can't really see the mechanic anymore. Missed out for taking too long :/

[Osmond]

You kinda answered the question already. I'm just sad because I can't really see the mechanic anymore. Missed out for taking too long :/

Im not really worried though, they know that they won't play 2nd coil anymore. Yeah, it does suck for those who do miss it, but it was annoying if ppl didn't get used to the mechanics yet....or maybe they didn't want it and just wait til the nerf.

[BumBumBomb]

Wait, people are getting mad that SCOB is being nerfed? Wtf? Must be all the elitists and run sellers. Now people have the opportunity to progress. Here is something else you may not have noticed.... T9 was not nerfed.... so why complain

[Xensai]

Wait, people are getting mad that SCOB is being nerfed? Wtf? Must be all the elitists and run sellers. Now people have the opportunity to progress. Here is something else you may not have noticed.... T9 was not nerfed.... so why complain

I'm not an Elitest nor do i sell runs i actually leveled an ALT so i could help people on the server i play and progress with them. How are people going to be ready for FCoB when they couldn't even get through SCoB

[Keisatsu]

I'm not an Elitest nor do i sell runs i actually leveled an ALT so i could help people on the server i play and progress with them. How are people going to be ready for FCoB when they couldn't even get through SCoB

By learning to do FCoB or doing Savage mode
Yes you may call me an idiot but hey..the way you're putting it is like saying no one can learn to do FCoB..from FCoB.

[Rieze_Xeero]

I'm not an Elitest nor do i sell runs i actually leveled an ALT so i could help people on the server i play and progress with them. How are people going to be ready for FCoB when they couldn't even get through SCoB

Simple, there are people who does not live their entire lives only playing games and just want to experience end game and story, so they don't care if they are late or if they are not that good in raids. They will just wait till it is easy since they have real life issues, unlike some players who just eat/sleep/play all day. This is MMO, if you want to brag your skills go play MOBA or First Person Shooters.

[Lyrinn]

How are people going to be ready for FCoB when they couldn't even get through SCoB

Let's be real though, if people couldn't get through T6-8 pre-nerfs (legitimately trying, those who started late or couldn't find statics obviously don't fall in this category), then they're not going to get through T9, which wasn't nerfed except through 10% echo. Still need T9 to unlock FCoB.

[Alukah]

Let's be real though, if people couldn't get through T6-8 pre-nerfs (legitimately trying, those who started late or couldn't find statics obviously don't fall in this category), then they're not going to get through T9, which wasn't nerfed except through 10% echo. Still need T9 to unlock FCoB.

Beacuse learning T9 by doing T9 is something completely impossible to do, the older fights make it easier to learn T9, but you still CAN learn T9 by doing it, and you CAN learn FCoB by doing FCoB - will be harder, but not impossible.

This is how people who join late are able to do end-game raids, they dont sit through old content learning mechanics, they learn the mechanics of the current end game-raid and that's it.

And perhaps they could keep the content challenging so all you filthy casuals leave and I have decent skilled players to progress with, instead of wiping in a turn 8 PF because the bard was too busy drawing notice me senpai pictures for reddit and not knowing what a tower is.

You know what happens when a game is catered to hardcore players and oldschool grindfest lovers? They fail miserably like Wildstar.

[Lyrinn]

Beacuse learning T9 by doing T9 is something completely impossible to do, the older fights make it easier to learn T9, but you still CAN learn T9 by doing it, and you CAN learn FCoB by doing FCoB - will be harder, but not impossible.

This is how people who join late are able to do end-game raids, they dont sit through old content learning mechanics, they learn the mechanics of the current end game-raid and that's it.

My point was if someone was struggling through T6-8, they're going to struggle through T9. I've seen countless statics go through this, with poor DPS barely squeaking by T8 and then getting stuck on T9 for months because they can't get less than 6 stardusts or kill golems in time. As far as I'm concerned, if you can reliably clear T9, then you "deserve" to be in FCoB. The nerfs to T6-8 won't change that.