So Second Coil has been destroyed

[SirSaber]

Personally for me it is because I want to go through the same hardships of wiping and learning that others had to go through in order to progress. While I don't mind echo because I can turn that off I feel like I get cheated out of an experience with nerfs like this.

I understand your point.

2nd Coil was out for a while now, people had time to go and beat it the normal way.
I think that after months people had enough time to learn, whipe and beat 2nd coil.

Now final Coil is there for that and the second was made easier for those who weren't able to find a static/fc team to beat it the normal way.
These tremendous nerf on coil2 is only to make it PUG able.

Coil2 is now shit easy, people have to accept it and move on.
If you miss the challenge, well, there is savange 2nd coil then

[Snugglebutt]

Personally I want to go through the same hardships of wiping and learning that others had to go through in order to progress. While I don't mind echo because I can turn that off I feel like I get cheated out of an experience with nerfs like this.

No you don't. You are not cheated out of anything, do savage mode instead.

[Chihaya]

Welp, glad I was able to clear t6-8 before the patch, but still learning t9.

But with this patch, I think it be easier to go on farm mode with PUGs and not having to finish all the soldiery gears.

[Coldbrand]

Titan EX being harder than T7 makes a lot of sense.

[Numenor1379]

Titan EX being harder than T7 makes a lot of sense.

^^^ this... -______-

[Shougun]

While I can understand the loss of content that was preferred for some, I imagine there is a greater audience to benefit here. At least from MMO stats I've seen before in general players are alright, play a few hours a week, and would prefer something that is challenging yet does not require the game to be their second job (hyperbole, but only slightly).

Savage mode can sate some of the loss. It is hard to satisfy everyone, but I like that they try to keep everyone in the loop with staggered delay. I hope they continue to do so. (Bearing in mind I haven't seen the actual patch changes in effect, I'm just approving of the theory to keep a rolling mountain that they've shown so far)

[kazin]

Really happy to see the SCoB nerfs. I'm looking forward to clearing it -- or at least getting up to T9.

To the complainers -- you've had 8 months of access to these fights and even if that's not enough there's always savage for you (because all you want are tightly tuned difficult fights, right? Right?)

[Nuinn]

This just reeks of "I want my moment of glory to last longer."

[BloodPact]

This just reeks of "I want my moment of glory to last longer."

Nah, I usually advocate against those people, but it's clear to anyone who objectively views these changes that they went way overboard. I'm done with the Second Coil and have nothing left there, but I feel bad for the people who were looking for the release of it to the Duty Finder, a slight Echo buff to ease difficulty a little, yet still get a nice challenge out of every turn. The Second Coil is basically now a Full Party Syrcus Tower until Turn 4.

[Vespar]

Oh my god, that didnt take long at all for people to start whining. Cut your losses and move on. Much like the changes to First Coil, these wont be going anywhere.