So Second Coil has been destroyed

[Coatl]

Cleared T13 already. I enjoyed SCoB though, quite a bit. I still have a few pieces left to farm, and now I get watered down fights of dumb.

Meh. You most likely have dedicated people who could one-shot T7 no problem. In which case the fight isn't hard at all anyway. I have pieces to farm from turn 7-8 but I don't want to waste static time that we could be spent finalizing T9. Nowadays I pug T6-8, and the only difficulty in that for me now is trying to not pull all my hairs.

I'll say it this way. T6-8 are pointless. You don't even need them to advance to T10. They are now like my solo grind like atma farming lol. I mean I'm sorry to the new guys , they might not get the same feeling of accomplishment for beating T6-8 as some others did, but if they're not too sad about it then I won't lose any sleep over it either.

[Ferocious]

Bitching and moaning didn't get content nerfed. Time and newer content got it nerfed.

Is ff14 so full of elitists that they have to care old content they have farmed for months got nerfed? I've played so many MMOs and this is the first people actually get so mad old content got nerfed.

You don't get it, missy. It isn't about the content nerf, it's the extremes they go with the nerf. It basically becomes "dps the boss till its dead". Now think carefully, do you really enjoy that?! Echo buff is MORE than enough for nerfing content. You can push phases a lot faster and skip mechanics like people do in CT/ST. There's no need to get rid mechanics and say "go stand there and do nothing". No other MMO does that, quite a few of them just allow you to re-visit old raids without level sync after expansion comes out. Now speaking of that, I can only imagine this becoming barbie doll adventures after the expansion, the way SE is going right now.

[Shougun]

While I can understand the loss of content that was preferred for some, I imagine there is a greater audience to benefit here. At least from MMO stats I've seen before in general players are alright, play a few hours a week, and would prefer something that is challenging yet does not require the game to be their second job (hyperbole, but only slightly).

Savage mode can sate some of the loss. It is hard to satisfy everyone, but I like that they try to keep everyone in the loop with staggered delay. I hope they continue to do so. (Bearing in mind I haven't seen the actual patch changes in effect, I'm just approving of the theory to keep a rolling mountain that they've shown so far)

[kazin]

Really happy to see the SCoB nerfs. I'm looking forward to clearing it -- or at least getting up to T9.

To the complainers -- you've had 8 months of access to these fights and even if that's not enough there's always savage for you (because all you want are tightly tuned difficult fights, right? Right?)

[Nuinn]

This just reeks of "I want my moment of glory to last longer."

[D-Gold]

I do not understand why most of you are complaining about nerfs.
Let other people catch up and don't be so damn egoistic.

You have 2nd Coil savage mode for your loots and challange so why even care about normal 2nd Coil?

I don't get it why some here are allways nagging about content being made easier.

Personally I want to go through the same hardships of wiping and learning that others had to go through in order to progress. While I don't mind echo because I can turn that off I feel like I get cheated out of an experience with nerfs like this.

[kazin]

It basically becomes "dps the boss till its dead". Now think carefully, do you really enjoy that?!

Actually, I do. Different strokes, right? Cheers!

[Vespar]

Oh my god, that didnt take long at all for people to start whining. Cut your losses and move on. Much like the changes to First Coil, these wont be going anywhere.

[Thayos]

After two weeks of my static getting mauled in T7, I actually welcome these nerfs. We'll learn how to deal with the mechanics at a more reasonable pace now that we're not getting insta-killed with every single mistake.

[polyhedral]

Awwww, the run sellers will have to lower their prices now, maybe even lose a lot of business in the process.