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    Quote Originally Posted by Krr View Post
    The only generalization I've seen is that raiders are unhelpful and exclusory. Which is true. Open up your local PF and get a wake-up call as to what "Raiding" is like outside of your small FC group.
    Quote Originally Posted by AlexionSkylark View Post
    Maybe not ALL of them, but the vast majority... well... they are.
    These are the types of generalizations I'm talking about. Just because you guys don't see experienced raiders joining/making learning groups shouldn't flag them as unhelpful, exclusory, rude, or obnoxious. While I'll admit there are a lot of rude raiders, there are also a lot of rude non-raiders. There are also a lot of players in this game that try to leech content off of other players without learning it themselves. I've joined a lot party finder groups where people claim to be experienced (sometimes even the party leader) only to find out they have no idea what they are doing and just want the other people to carry them through it. Often it doesn't really bother me but I can understand why that would bother other people, some people only have a limited amount of time to play and want to spend their time experiencing things they haven't done yet. That doesn't give them any good reason to be rude however.

    That being said, the best place to find help really is an FC. My FC has helped numerous people clear turn 5, extreme primals, etc. but we really don't go out of our way to help people we don't know who we will likely never speak to again. Most of the time, in my opinion, friends/FC are a lot more grateful for your help than the random people using party finder, it's like being in a family. Most of the time you get the kill in a party finder group and then never see/hear from those people again.

    The fact is, neither of you know enough raiders to make the claim that all or even the majority of them are bad people. Your entire generalization is based off of the party finder and random people in DF groups which is only a small fraction of the people who play this game.
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    Last edited by DoctorPepper; 11-08-2014 at 08:08 AM.