Dragoons feeling left out?

[Mardel]

Their combo potency is fairly high compared to those of a monk's though (though the same can be said for ninja).

Haven't touched FCoB yet, but I hear all these horror stories of DRGs having absolute hell in there because of positional disallowing them to flank and outgoing magic damage that makes it more of a burden on the healers for really no good reason. And even then my static is running with two monks, one bard one blm (contemplating NIN/BRD/MNK/BLM) so we might not even see that being an issue when we get to FCoB...

Ya it's pretty bad. I don't recommend drg at all for FCOB. Monk can keep up their stacks almost the entire time unless they get chosen by a mechanic (t10) or die. T11 easy to keep up GL3 entire time, mantra is super nice to have as well. Positionals can be an issue, meanwhile drg... gg my friend gg.

[RiceisNice]

Ya it's pretty bad. I don't recommend drg at all for FCOB. Monk can keep up their stacks almost the entire time unless they get chosen by a mechanic (t10) or die. T11 easy to keep up GL3 entire time, mantra is super nice to have as well. Positional can be an issue, meanwhile drg... gg my friend gg.

I mean some people could see this not being a problem with shared gear (in the case of BLM/SMN) which was why we could get our BLM to go SMN for t7, but DRGs and MNK have their own gear (XYZ of striking/maiming). IMO fights/encounters shouldn't bench or favor the addition of specific classes for what they bring to the or capability, not to that insane degree anyway (it's nice to have... versus we need to have...)

[Mardel]

I mean some people could see this not being a problem with shared gear (in the case of BLM/SMN) which was why we could get our BLM to go SMN for t7, but DRGs and MNK have their own gear (XYZ of striking/maiming). IMO fights/encounters shouldn't bench or favor the addition of specific classes for what they bring to the or capability, not to that insane degree anyway (it's nice to have... versus we need to have...)

I agree with you. I don't want jobs to be similar but each should have something to bring to the table.

DRG currently needs some things to balance it out properly. The following would help:

1. Swap the dot/debuff of Phlembotomize and Disembowel. (This would help with the initial rotation issue of the mob moving around and making them miss HT)
This also allows for their to be a BENEFIT for bring x2 DRG. Meaning one drg doesn't have to waste a GCD putting up phlembotomize. (Kind of like monk w/ dragon kick or ninja w/ the slashing debuff)
2. Have Feint become and OFF GCD skill on Perfect Balance timer, grants an impulse rush buff that waves positionals for 7 seconds
3. Have Keen Flurry grant the trait "Dragon Skin" (while drg) allowing them to absorb 5% of magic damage taken as hp.
4. Make Piercing Talon off GCD still costs some TP.
5. Have Chaos thrust "Crit procs" grant the drg a chance to throw a free piercing talon.

Any of the above would have a nice beneficial effect on DRG's play style.