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    Player
    silentwindfr's Avatar
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    Florence Leduc
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 90
    let's wait to see what they will add with the 3.0 before jump to the gun. it's in 6-7 month.
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    Player JayCommon's Avatar
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    Indaki Sativa
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    I think people have 'lolDrg' ingrained into their brains at this point.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ulathskullsplitter View Post
    I'm so sick of this loldrg stereotype and it doesn't help when SE themselves help perpetuate it in their videos.
    Stereotypes normally get accepted into widespread thought patterns because they are true to an extent.

    Before 2.4 I grinded out my Nexus and there was a 4hr window (2 consecutive) of Titan HM. In that time I did about 45-50 runs, and in every single one of them that had a dragoon, the dragoon died. This is not an exaggeration, there was no single dragoon that lived throughout the entire fight. I don't know if those players just didn't care about the large circles underneath their feet, or if they were trying to squeeze out another move to maintain DPS and missed their chance to dodge....either way it happened every time.

    And then just a few days ago, I was farming a Levi EX mount with some raid members (and got it!!!) We went in as 2 tanks 1 heal and me as the only DPS, and DF'ed the remaining 4 ppl for the chance of extra soldiery (which we also got a lot of) and I encountered the same DRG 3 times in a row. He was amazing. For 2/3 of those runs him and I were the only DPS remaining alive when we got the kill, and the 2nd and 3rd time I saw him in DF I was very happy he got thrown into our group. His DPS was spot on, he knew how to dodge and maintain it, and most of all he never died once.

    The problem is, it is far more common to run into Derpgoons, than it is to run into Dragoons. There is no reason to feel personally attacked when people laugh at Dragoons if you are one of the good ones. DRG's seem to fail harder than other DPS in general, but a really good DRG is a very potent ally. A good DRG would never be denied from my static....if we actually needed anything in our static anyway

    All you can control, is to be the exception rather than the rule. Don't be one of the dragoons that sounds like a disgruntled worker....





    Always askin for a raise.
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    myahele's Avatar
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    Tonrak Totorak
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Yeah I can see why DRGs are feeling left out since they really don't have too much utility compared to NIN or MNK. DRGs dont have increased movement speed to help them dodge. They only have a buff that'll help BRDs whereas NIN can help everyone.

    And having low magic def when most aoes are magic doesn't help.
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 100
    You do know then 3.0 that dragoons are probably going to get some major buffs since they are big figures in the main storyline and the main character is now a dragoon. DRG will probably get call wyvern as one of the new abilities in Heavens fall making them all that much stronger.
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    Morningstar1337's Avatar
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    Aurora Aura
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    Exodus
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    You do know then 3.0 that dragoons are probably going to get some major buffs since they are big figures in the main storyline and the main character is now a dragoon. DRG will probably get call wyvern as one of the new abilities in Heavens fall making them all that much stronger.
    Okay woulden;t that break the lore since the Ishgardians clearly hate dragons?
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    Warlyx Arada
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    Moogle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    Okay woulden;t that break the lore since the Ishgardians clearly hate dragons?
    yup , ishgard is on battle with dragons , and SE said that DRG wont get pets EVER.
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    LordMaitreya's Avatar
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    Jsun El
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    Dragoon Lv 70
    Thank god.
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    Ryel Altaria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlyx View Post
    yup , ishgard is on battle with dragons , and SE said that DRG wont get pets EVER.
    They also said Warrior was fine and needed no changes whatsoever as the developers had no issues using them to clear all content at the time.

    But for DRG specifically Yoshida did talk about the possibility of Dragoon having a dragon come down to perform attacks with them, also stop using lore as an excuse for why things "can't" work, the lore is hardly finished for the game and things change as we go through the story

    Things that were thought to be impossible become possible and alliances can be forged were there were none prior, even the way we view primals was redefined by Shiva in 2.4 and will continue to do so with 3.0 if what Yoshida has said so far is true.
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    Player Lithera's Avatar
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    Randolont Althoreaux
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    Midgardsormr
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    Lancer Lv 60
    A god damned wyvern would be the end of the class...unless it was done in a very specific fashion that would allow the DRG to function just as effectively without it as with it. It would also likely require a fairly hefty overhaul of the job since it can't be both a combo based burst melee DPS and a pet DPS class at the same time. People need to stop dreaming and throw out the nostalgia glasses. My wyvern was nice to look at but it gimped the Hell out of the job in XI. Also people are grossly overestimating NIN's damage buff. It's 10s every 60s...requiring the NIN to do a 3 step Suiton ninjutsu in place of their normal rotation. DRGs get a 100% uptime boost that helps both themselves AND any BRD.
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    Yu Zeneolsia
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    Ragnarok
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Dont worry, with the new expansion, you guys will be the new poster-child for FFXIV. As a former FFXI Dragoon, please, please, please, no wyvern, I dont want half of my dps to die fast and wait hours to be able to summon it again. The wyvern is was adorable, but it was one of the reason why the dragoon class sucked alot compared to other dps classes.

    Instead I recommend you guys ask SE to add a wyvern companion like the chocobo in the new expansion, this way the wyvern will not gimp the dragoon and you have the whole master and pet relationship. Worst case scenario, I think we will see a wyvern minion.
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